I would like to add to Jan's post.... I have spinal problems and when I am having a bad spell, I cannot tell that I have to go to the bathroom more than 10 seconds before I will lose control. My neighbor's dog had a huge bladder stone and she started peeing in the house. If you take her to the vet, have him/her check her spine...she could have some inherited problem with the nerves to her bladder and bowels. --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, "barefootjan" <barefootjan@...> wrote: > > Hello again, > > You've been getting a lot of great ideas! (I'm taking notes myself!!!) > > I would like to add one more point, not to disagree with you or anyone else, > but just for you to keep in the back of your mind. > > Our senior Beagle needed to go out many times a day (12 to as many as 20 > times a day, I sh*t you not). Now, apparently his previous owners had given > him a treat every time he came back inside. We believed this was the case > because when he was done outside, he would joyfully run up to us and sit > expectantly at our feet. We wanted to make him happy, so we gave him treats > some of the time, but not every time. He would've been enormous if we had. > The vet gave him a clean bill of health, so it seemed to us that his wanting > to take frequent trips outside was his way of attempting to get extra treats. > :) > > But he later developed some stomach problems, and we couldn't even treat him > some of the time anymore. It wasn't unusual for him to beg to go out right > after he came in, but when we cut out the treats entirely we still couldn't > help thinking that he was trying to train us to give him the damn treat > already! He actually did pee while he was out there, but we humored ourselves > by thinking, "maybe he just has great bladder control." So that was one > story we told ourselves about why he wanted to go outside so often. Another > was that he liked to smell all the smells, since we also theorized that his > previous owners, an elderly couple, seldom took him all the way outside but > instead let him pee in their garage instead. We had been completely taken > aback the time he serenely used the unfinished part of our basement floor to > do his business! > > Fast forward several months: Spike was lifting his leg to pee but not passing > much urine. I suspected a urinary tract infection & took him to the vet. The > vet thought an infection was unlikely (much more common in females, he said), > but since I already brought a urine sample he tested it. Spike did in fact > have a slight infection. The vet was a little puzzled. He wondered if perhaps > there was some sort of mechanical blockage, but when he palpated his abdomen, > he couldn't feel anything obvious. Still not sure what was going on, he had > the tech take an x ray (or ultrasound, i can't remember which). It revealed > an enormous mass that basically took up Spike's entire belly. His other > organs -including his bladder - were all being crowded out by this giant mass. > > Spike had surgery to remove the mass, which consisted of a very large benign > growth and a little bit of spleen. The whole thing weighed three pounds. This > was a 30# dog, so we're talking 10% of his weight. Exactly how long it had > been there, we couldn't know, but it's doubtful it got that big overnight. > > This was not the only time Spike's behavior might have been at least *partly* > medically related. He was also diagnosed with IVDD in both his lumbar & > cervical spine. We feel that his IVDD, in combination with his separation > anxiety and possibly the mass growing on his spleen, pretty much explains the > time when we weren't home and he absolutely soaked one of our beds. (A lot > of people think this is spiteful behavior, which to me says more about them > than it does about the dog - but I digress). He'd never done anything like > that before; he was very well house-trained. But after pacing & panting - > which consequently led him to drink lots of water - and then anxiously > jumping on & off the bed, he more likely than not had inadvertently hurt his > back and was trapped on the bed when the urge to pee came. Even without the > back problem, how could he possibly be expected to hold it after all that > drinking, especially if he had this mass that no one even knew about pressing > on his bladder?! > > The tough thing about dogs is that we can't ask them questions about where it > hurts or what they're feeling; we have to try to read the clues. Somtimes the > most obvious explantion is really all there is to it. But if things don't > improve, I for one think it doesn't hurt to look into other possibilities. > Sometimes a problem isn't our fault or the dog's fault or the previous > owner's fault or even the vet's fault. Sometimes all the clues simply aren't > in yet. > > Something to keep in mind when you're feeling frustrated. Which by the way I > TOTALLY understand. > good luck! > Jan > > > > > > --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, "skyforme1970" <skyforme1970@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Becky, > > I don't think it is a medical issue. She pees/poops what I'd call a > > "normal" amount. I would not say it is frequent, just in the wrong places. > > I also take her out for potty breaks every morning early, mid day, late > > after noon and at night before bed. It's about a 50/50 chance she will go > > when asked. > > > > --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Becky Stewart <stewartgang@> wrote: > > > > > > Have you had your dog checked by a vet? Many times when a dog is > > > suffering from bladder infections or stones, they will urinate frequently > > > and where ever they can. > > > > > > Becky & the girls > > > > > > Sent from Becky's IPad > > > > > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:08 PM, "skyforme1970" <skyforme1970@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have a nearly 2 year old spayed female chihuahua mix. She is only > > > > about 5 lbs and very sweet. She came toddling up our driveway one rainy > > > > afternoon when she was only about 3 months old. No one claimed her so > > > > we took her in knowing nothing about chihuahuas. From what I heard from > > > > the neighbors, she was a litter mate escapee and the people who had her > > > > never let her or the other pups in the house, so they all stayed > > > > outside in the backyard. > > > > > > > > No matter what I do, I cannot seem to house train her. We had to lock > > > > her in her kennel at night so she would not tear the house up as we > > > > slept. As a result, she had gotten used to peeing and sometimes pooping > > > > in her bed since (I assume) she could not hold it all night. This is > > > > without fail every single day. She will pee anywhere she sleeps (her > > > > round cloth bed, her kennel bed and the kid's beanbags). She also has > > > > no issue with peeing on tile or rugs or carpet RIGHT in front of us all > > > > while innocently looking us in the eye. It's like she has NO concept > > > > whatsoever that this displeases us greatly even tho she has been > > > > scolded for it more times than I can count. > > > > > > > > It does not matter if we take her outside for potty right before bed or > > > > withhold food and water after 3 pm. She has no problem letting us know > > > > when her water or food bowl has gone dry or to alert us for her other > > > > wants and needs. Just the potty thing. I kept thinking she'd grow out > > > > of it, but she has not at nearly 2 years old. (born in Feb 2011) > > > > > > > > As a result, since she is so tiny (and smart, I think) I got the bright > > > > idea to try and litter box train her. I've tried using kitty litter, > > > > then a pee pad, then even cutting iceplant from outside and putting it > > > > into the box for her to pee on since that is what she usually does on > > > > it when we take her out for a potty break. > > > > > > > > I call the litter box her "pottybox" thinking it was best to give it a > > > > name she might identify it with. She has used it a grand total of twice > > > > in the last 6 weeks of trying to train her. When she has an accident, I > > > > take the soiled towels and put them in her pottybox so she > > > > knows/smells/sees what it is there for. I also tell her "go potty" like > > > > I do when she is outside. > > > > > > > > Recently we moved her to the laundry room at night and use a baby gate > > > > so she can still see out into the house. I now leave her kennel bed > > > > open so she has free access to the pottybox, but she still prefers to > > > > sleep in her own waste. > > > > > > > > She has no issue with jumping into the potty box, and will do so just > > > > by us telling her to, but she will just sit down and look at me like > > > > "what do you want me to do?" > > > > > > > > She is ruining our house and I've never been closer to giving up after > > > > two years of this constant messing with no end in sight. I cannot keep > > > > her outside as we live in rural area and she would not last an hour out > > > > there so a house dog she must be. > > > > > > > > I am not a quitter, especially when it comes to animals, but this (and > > > > her constant "glee peeing" even when seeing the SAME people over and > > > > over but that is another story) is turning in to a real deal breaker. I > > > > have never had such a high maintenance, and frankly such a PITA dog in > > > > my life, but we love her very much. > > > > > > > > I'm sure this has come up a million times, but if anyone has some > > > > suggestions that might help, I'd appreciate it. We are very low on > > > > money so buying yet more "training aids" is not possible right now. > > > > Plus, I feel that I have spent enough on all this and she has what she > > > > needs, except the message I am trying to get across to her. Breaks my > > > > heart to think of giving her up, but if we can't resolve this, I will > > > > have to re-home her to someone who understands the breed better than I > > > > do. Thanks for any help you can give us for this sweet little girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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