Aaron, I don't want to give you a "big head", but yes... your Greasemonkey is quite popular my friend (especially among the social network crowd, and online gaming crowd).
>> I can easily point you to 800,000+ postings just since December of users >> asking the status of Greasemonkey support in Chromium. > >Seriously? Please do :) Aaron, if you have a Facebook page, I'd ask for your Facebook Id page, I'll send you a friend request. I help to support a few scripts written, for various online games (to include most of Zynga's games, including their latest "Mafia Wars" game). There are almost 16+ Million users that play Mafia Wars on Facebook. They average about 3 to 3.5 Million users a day, and about one third, to almost half of those users use automated scripts (Greasemonkey scripts) for game play. Zynga seems to have about 75+ Million registered users, and their largest and most popular game is definitely "Mafia Wars" for Facebook (with about 16+ Million registered users) and about 3 to 3.5 Million users per day (just playing Mafia Wars on Facebook) alone. http://www.patentarcade.com/2009/06/case-update-zynga-v-john-does-1-5.html Beta 491 was downloaded almost 950,000 times since June 23rd. Beta 493 was downloaded almost 500,000 times since June 30th. Since July 3rd, our latest version 0.9.6 (Beta 494) was downloaded over 221,226 times in just 3 days (over 4th of July weekend), Yes, we often get more script downloads/updates in a week than Firefox even has on their latest 3.5. ;-) Social gaming is pretty big right now, Zynga is probably one of the largest (and most popular) of online gaming and automated scripting (for autostats, auto banking, job energy/returns calculated, auto property purchase, and log collection) has been in great demand. It's hard keeping up with script updates, as new games are constantly being released, and patches/fixes need to be constantly released, but yes... the scripts are all written specifically for "GreaseMonkey". The latest trunk release (which is linked to directly) and doesn't go through userscripts.org, probably gets close to 20,000+ downloads a day (and sometimes higher than that depending on the number of fixes that get released). Yes, a lot of the users have asked me about Chromium support, but to be honest I really have no clue what the current status of Greasemonkey support in Chrome/Chromium even is. I understand everyone is complaining that Chrome is much faster (and a lot of users were complaining that Firefox kept crashing due to memory leaks) I'm not going to say that all 16+ million Mafia Wars registered users that currently play Mafia Wars use Greasemonkey (or automated scripting) but I do believe about probably close to 2 million users do use the Greasemonkey scripts for various Zynga games (out of the 75+ Million registered Zynga users). With Mafia Wars being the largest group of users (and most popular game). Yes, social networking (Facebook/Myspace) is pretty popular, and yes better browsers (such as Chrome/Chromium) are what users like. Personally, I hate Firefox, and I would love to switch over to Chrome/Chromium permanently, but unfortunately I'm just like everyone else and I'm tied to Firefox simply because of the Greasemonkey add-on. I'm glad to see that you're over at Google, and I really do hope that you can get native Greasemonkey support implemented into Chromium. It sure would make our lives much easier, and it sure would be nice to have a super fast web browser that is stable, and doesn't crash the whole web browser, just because one window/tab crashes. ;-) Here's a million plus pages related to Greasemonkey for Google Chrome (with many pages have quite a few posts, it was a big flurry of interest back in October/December when the news first came out): http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=greasemonkey+for+chrome&aq=f&oq=&aqi= Unfortunately most of the posts end with "Greasemonkey doesn't work in Chrome, it's broken" and there doesn't seem to be any answer or explanation as to why, or when it will be fixed. The latest memory leaks in Firefox, are just killing users, and I get about 35 complaints a day about Firefox crashing, but there is very little that I can do concerning Firefox, and to be honest I'd rather migrate over to Chrome/Chromium if at all possible. I really think Chrome/Chromium is a much better browser, and even in terms of speed (just watching the feed updates), Chrome is about 10-15 times faster than my Firefox (3.1 or 3.5), and I've never had a single instance of Chrome crash on me yet, whereas I get Firefox crashes at least 10-12 times a day (due to memory leaks). When looking at feed updates (concerning jobs/online gaming jobs) I get feeds about 10-12 times faster on Chrome, then I do on Firefox. A lot of users will keep two windows open, one in Chrome (for game feeds) and then the second in Firefox (just to use the Greasemonkey scripts and player scripts) For users that run their scripts 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, they seem to get upset when Firefox crashes (in the middle of the night) and their gameplay has stopped. I was just checking on the possibility of running the Greasemonkey scripts using Chrome/Chromium, because Chromium seems to be much quicker, and much more stable and a lot of users had asked me about it, but I really wasn't sure as to the current status of Greasemonkey support in Chromium. If you are the original author of Greasemonkey, I just want to thank-you from the bottom of my heart (and on behalf of all the other users in the online gaming sector that use Greasemonkey scripts), and thank-you for all your hard work. I really love Greasemonkey, and I am just one (of many users) who would really love to see native Greasemonkey support added natively to Chromium. Thank-you, Mark As you can see just the latest Greasemonkey 0.8.x Firefox add-on is by far one of the more popular add-ons for Firefox, with over 114,000+ weekly downloads, and over 20+ million total downloads. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 <http://www.patentarcade.com/2009/06/case-update-zynga-v-john-does-1-5.html>Here's over 1,000,000 pages about Greasemonkey for Chrome: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=greasemonkey+for+chrome&aq=f&oq=&aqi= Here's 227,000 pages about Greasemonkey for Seamonkey http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=greasemonkey+for+seamonkey&aq=0p&oq=grease&aqi=g:p3g7 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Aaron Boodman <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you for your passionate plea. > > There are two features that we are working on along the lines of what > you are asking about: > > - User scripts (similar to Greasemonkey scripts) > - Extensions > > The user scripts feature has not made much progress because we have > not been sure exactly how the two features should relate. We did not > want to enable something that we would later have to disable. > > But FWIW, the current plan is: > > - User scripts will be enabled by default (no --enable-user-scripts > needed). > - But there won't be any Greasemonkey-style UI - they will always be a > power user feature. > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Mark Malewski<[email protected]> > wrote: > > I can easily point you to 800,000+ postings just since December of users > > asking the status of Greasemonkey support in Chromium. > > Seriously? Please do :) > > > There are probably at least 400+ postings just on Mashable alone. I've > > skimmed through, and read everything I could. > > There seems to be a small handful of people that have managed to somehow > get > > "Greasemonkey" to work in December, but from what I read none of the > > functions have been implemented, and the whole project seems to just "not > > exist". Everyone is posting comments, and nobody seems to have any > answers > > as to what on Earth is going on, and how we can get Greasemonkey for > > Chromium working. > > The URL that you keep linking to > ( > http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/user-scripts > ) > says explicitly: "Chromium does not support @exclude, @require, > @resource, unsafeWindow, or any of the special GM_* APIs.". Isn't that > the status information you're asking for? > > > I have looked at some of Adam Hirsch's posts, and some of the posts over > at > > GHack, and various other forums. > > http://mashable.com/2008/12/15/google-chrome-greasemonkey-scripts/ > > It's been about 9+ months of posts from what I've been reading, but all I > > hear is "great news" and then a flurry of posts saying "it doesn't work" > and > > "how do I get it to work"? Then towards the end, everyone just says "the > > shit is broken, it doesn't work". That doesn't seem very helpful, and > I've > > read several hundred posts from others wanting to help, and move this > > project forward, but nobody seems to have any information (other than > some > > "greasespot" page, and a personal blog of Aaron Boodman, but there is no > > place where anyone can even post, or even take part in this project. > > http://ajaxian.com/archives/greasemonkey-chrome-edition > > Can we make this an OpenSource project...? > > Chromium is open source. You are welcome to get involved > (http://dev.chromium.org/developers/). > > > Also so others can get some help, and at least see the status of the > project > > and various functions (and their current implementation status). 9+ > months > > is a long time, and it seems that nothing has been done at all in the > past > > nine months (other than lots of people bitching and complaining about > > nothing working). I'm one of those people that would like to see things > get > > fixed (and implemented), and would at least like to help move this > project > > forward if we can at least get some information as to what is going on, > and > > who is the lead developer, or who is even running this project, or what > the > > current status of each of the functions even is? > > The document you link to clearly states that the GM_* functions are > unsupported (technically, that isn't true -- there is some minor > support, but not worth digressing into here). This hasn't changed > since we added basic support for user scripts because: > > a) We can't do it in a way that we're comfortable with, security-wise, > without lots more code that needs to be built. > b) We did not perceive it as a high priority (we haven't been deluged > with feature requests for these functions). > c) We did not understand exactly how it would related to Chromium > extensions and we didn't want to enable something we'd have to later > disable. > > > A Greasemonkey for Chromium WIKI page would be extremely useful, so users > > can at least see what is going on, and other developers can at least get > > involved. > > I agree, the current state with the Chromium-only editable pages > stinks. I will fix this. I think that we can create user-editable > wikis on code.google.com. > > - a > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Chromium Discussion mailing list: [email protected] View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-discuss -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
