Well we know that Putin KNEW of the calamity  in advance of 911 from a 
letter written to him by Saddam's brother. And the most significant 
thing from Vreeland was the bank transaction  documents, I don't think I 
would believe a  WORD the man says or said. And I barely see the 
connection you or the WP are drawing here, if they even are. If the 
Russian govt wanted to kill, they would any sensible person knows that. 
In this case they didn't, maybe they have softened and simply decided to 
sternly warn everyone who speaks against the Russian KGB.

I really don't see the connection between the stories anyway. I mean the 
realistic reaction of a competent fiduciary in a corporation  is going 
to be to find cost effective means to continue the current capabilities 
at a lower expense, and it would be very hard to reason that the current 
nuclear arsenal is cost effective, so the concept of developing newer 
cheaper and maybe even better warheads makes sense. And they've been 
doing it for years anyway without congressional oversight, NNPT be 
damned, just like all the other treaties, signed for public consumption. 
Where do you think the Lewis Livermore design came from, thin air??

Maybe this is the excuse to come forward now, but common dude, what a 
crock. You seem overly invested in the system that allows this all to 
happen. Who cares what the normal people with no brains are doing or 
thinking, we will never change their minds and in the end we are the 
freaks who see through the mask of the conspiracy. Maybe you might feel 
better about it if you knew more about the Church of the Subgenius and 
the teachings of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, so go to www.subgenius.net and get 
saved by "Bob"

Slasher

muckblit wrote:

> "The Bush administration turned this into a program to develop a new
> nuclear warhead"
>
> Some of you may remember Delmart Vreeland telling us that Putin and
> Saddam did 911.
>
> Let the poor and mis-educated eat Niger Yellowcake Forgery, Saddam
> WMD, Saddam 911.
>
> Magic Bullet? 911 Pentagon Small Magic Plane(c'mon, just a little
> one)? Litvinenko polonium?
>
> John Lennon shot by the Op 40 chief to clear the road for magic Space
> Weapons?
>
> Eighty people killed in the first 24 hours after the JFK
> assassination...by the mafia...LBJ...KGB...magic?
>
> If you buy cigarettes because you think you are rebelling against the
> people who make money when you buy cigarettes, because you think they
> warn you that cigarettes cause cancer in order to keep from making
> money off of you on cigarettes and chemo, then you're ready for magic.
>
> My president right or wrong, but lying? Not lying. Just wrong, dumb,
> but not lying. Magic. Darwin. Not lying.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401333_pf.html
>  
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401333_pf.html>
>
> Analyst Robbed During Shooting
> Disclosure May Quell Putin Speculation
>
> By Eric Rich
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Monday, March 5, 2007; B01
>
> The noted expert in Russian intelligence who was shot outside his
> house in Prince George's County last week -- a crime that raised the
> possibility of international intrigue in the Washington suburbs --
> also was robbed of his wallet and briefcase, law enforcement sources
> said yesterday.
>
> That property was taken from Paul Joyal supports the theory that he
> was shot during a robbery rather than in retaliation for public
> criticism of the Kremlin, according to two sources who spoke on
> condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.
>
> Joyal, 53, was critically wounded in the driveway of his home in the
> Adelphi area Thursday evening, four days after he alleged in a
> television broadcast that the government of Russian President Vladimir
> Putin was involved in the fatal poisoning last fall of Alexander
> Litvinenko, a former KGB agent who was living in London.
>
> Speaking on TV's "Dateline NBC" on Feb. 25 about the poisoning, Joyal
> said, "A message has been communicated to anyone who wants to speak
> out against the Kremlin: 'If you do, no matter who you are, where you
> are, we will find you and we will silence you -- in the most horrible
> way possible.' "
>
> The timing of Joyal's shooting raised the possibility that he was
> targeted in an attack similar to the one he had publicly deplored. The
> disclosure the next day that the FBI was helping with the case seemed
> for many to reinforce that notion.
>
> In addition, robberies are rare in the suburban area where Joyal
> lives, and police spokesmen have declined to talk about possible
> motives or say whether property was taken from Joyal.
>
> But another law enforcement source, who also spoke on condition of
> anonymity, said yesterday that Joyal was driving a Chrysler 300, a
> vehicle sought by carjackers, suggesting that the assailants might
> have followed Joyal home rather than waited there to attack him.
> Police have described the suspects as two black males.
>
> Joyal, a longtime critic of the Putin regime, said on "Dateline" that
> Litvinenko's poisoning -- with polonium-210, a rare radioactive
> isotope -- was an act of "political retribution." Speculation that
> Putin and the Russian government were involved in Litvinenko's death
> in November has been widespread, in part because Litvinenko was
> looking into the killing of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya.
> Putin and Kremlin officials have denied involvement.
>
> For some, the possibility of a conspiracy in the shooting of Joyal was
> compounded by the recent death of another person featured in the TV
> segment.
>
> Daniel McGrory, 54, a reporter for the Times of London, died at his
> home Feb. 20. MSNBC reported that McGrory's cause of death was a heart
> attack.
>
> Joyal was shot hours after meeting with a former KGB general, Oleg
> Kalugin, near the Spy Museum in Washington. Kalugin, a family friend
> and a member of the museum's board, has said he was shocked when
> Joyal's wife called later that evening to tell him that Joyal had been
> shot.
>
> Joyal, who was struck in the groin, remained hospitalized Saturday.
> His condition could not be determined yesterday.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301077_pf.html
>  
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301077_pf.html>
>
> Nuclear Warhead Plan Draws Opposition
> Some Lawmakers Are Against New Weapon, While Others Seek Justification
>
> By Walter Pincus
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Sunday, March 4, 2007; A05
>
> The selection of a basic design for what could become a new generation
> of U.S. nuclear warheads has drawn immediate opposition from some key
> members of Congress.
>
> The National Nuclear Security Administration announced on Friday that
> it had selected a design by the California-based Lawrence Livermore
> National Laboratory for the Reliable Replacement Warhead (RRW). It
> would be the first of a new generation of secure and reliable nuclear
> warheads initially intended for the Navy's submarine-launched
> intercontinental ballistic missiles.
>
> Within the next 12 months, a team from Livermore and the Navy is to
> put together cost estimates and an engineering and production plan
> that would be presented to Congress next year for approval, according
> to acting NNSA Administrator Thomas P. D'Agostino.
>
> Rep. Peter J. Visclosky (D-Ind.), the new chairman of the House
> Appropriations subcommittee that controls the funds for the nuclear
> weapons complex, has sharply questioned why a new warhead is needed.
> Saying the NNSA announcement "puts the cart before the horse," he
> called on the Bush administration to present a "clear, coherent
> national policy" to justify the new warhead.
>
> Visclosky said he plans to hold oversight hearings and may seek to
> slow or eliminate the RRW if the administration does not present a
> strategy "that defines the future mission, the emerging threats, and
> the specific U.S. nuclear stockpile necessary to achieve the strategic
> goals."
>
> The same subcommittee, under the previous chairman, Rep. David L.
> Hobson (R-Ohio), helped eliminate the Bush administration's plan to
> develop a nuclear "bunker buster" weapon and, instead, initiated a
> program to upgrade the reliability of the current stockpile of Cold
> War weapons. The Bush administration turned this into a program to
> develop a new nuclear warhead.
>
> Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a longtime opponent of new nuclear
> weapons, has declared that she is "100 percent opposed" to building
> the RRW. A member of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee that funds
> the nuclear complex, she said in a statement: "While I appreciate the
> fact that Lawrence Livermore was selected, this in no way answers my
> questions about the Reliable Replacement Warhead program."
>
> She questioned how other countries would view the U.S. effort to
> develop new nuclear weapons at the same time that the United States is
> pushing Iran, North Korea and other countries to drop nuclear weapons
> programs.
>
>  


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