Sorry, that's www.sugenius.com Synthetic Sound wrote:
> Well we know that Putin KNEW of the calamity in advance of 911 from a > letter written to him by Saddam's brother. And the most significant > thing from Vreeland was the bank transaction documents, I don't think I > would believe a WORD the man says or said. And I barely see the > connection you or the WP are drawing here, if they even are. If the > Russian govt wanted to kill, they would any sensible person knows that. > In this case they didn't, maybe they have softened and simply decided to > sternly warn everyone who speaks against the Russian KGB. > > I really don't see the connection between the stories anyway. I mean the > realistic reaction of a competent fiduciary in a corporation is going > to be to find cost effective means to continue the current capabilities > at a lower expense, and it would be very hard to reason that the current > nuclear arsenal is cost effective, so the concept of developing newer > cheaper and maybe even better warheads makes sense. And they've been > doing it for years anyway without congressional oversight, NNPT be > damned, just like all the other treaties, signed for public consumption. > Where do you think the Lewis Livermore design came from, thin air?? > > Maybe this is the excuse to come forward now, but common dude, what a > crock. You seem overly invested in the system that allows this all to > happen. Who cares what the normal people with no brains are doing or > thinking, we will never change their minds and in the end we are the > freaks who see through the mask of the conspiracy. Maybe you might feel > better about it if you knew more about the Church of the Subgenius and > the teachings of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, so go to www.subgenius.net and get > saved by "Bob" > > Slasher > > muckblit wrote: > > > "The Bush administration turned this into a program to develop a new > > nuclear warhead" > > > > Some of you may remember Delmart Vreeland telling us that Putin and > > Saddam did 911. > > > > Let the poor and mis-educated eat Niger Yellowcake Forgery, Saddam > > WMD, Saddam 911. > > > > Magic Bullet? 911 Pentagon Small Magic Plane(c'mon, just a little > > one)? Litvinenko polonium? > > > > John Lennon shot by the Op 40 chief to clear the road for magic Space > > Weapons? > > > > Eighty people killed in the first 24 hours after the JFK > > assassination...by the mafia...LBJ...KGB...magic? > > > > If you buy cigarettes because you think you are rebelling against the > > people who make money when you buy cigarettes, because you think they > > warn you that cigarettes cause cancer in order to keep from making > > money off of you on cigarettes and chemo, then you're ready for magic. > > > > My president right or wrong, but lying? Not lying. Just wrong, dumb, > > but not lying. Magic. Darwin. Not lying. > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401333_pf.html > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401333_pf.html> > > > > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401333_pf.html > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401333_pf.html>> > > > > Analyst Robbed During Shooting > > Disclosure May Quell Putin Speculation > > > > By Eric Rich > > Washington Post Staff Writer > > Monday, March 5, 2007; B01 > > > > The noted expert in Russian intelligence who was shot outside his > > house in Prince George's County last week -- a crime that raised the > > possibility of international intrigue in the Washington suburbs -- > > also was robbed of his wallet and briefcase, law enforcement sources > > said yesterday. > > > > That property was taken from Paul Joyal supports the theory that he > > was shot during a robbery rather than in retaliation for public > > criticism of the Kremlin, according to two sources who spoke on > > condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. > > > > Joyal, 53, was critically wounded in the driveway of his home in the > > Adelphi area Thursday evening, four days after he alleged in a > > television broadcast that the government of Russian President Vladimir > > Putin was involved in the fatal poisoning last fall of Alexander > > Litvinenko, a former KGB agent who was living in London. > > > > Speaking on TV's "Dateline NBC" on Feb. 25 about the poisoning, Joyal > > said, "A message has been communicated to anyone who wants to speak > > out against the Kremlin: 'If you do, no matter who you are, where you > > are, we will find you and we will silence you -- in the most horrible > > way possible.' " > > > > The timing of Joyal's shooting raised the possibility that he was > > targeted in an attack similar to the one he had publicly deplored. The > > disclosure the next day that the FBI was helping with the case seemed > > for many to reinforce that notion. > > > > In addition, robberies are rare in the suburban area where Joyal > > lives, and police spokesmen have declined to talk about possible > > motives or say whether property was taken from Joyal. > > > > But another law enforcement source, who also spoke on condition of > > anonymity, said yesterday that Joyal was driving a Chrysler 300, a > > vehicle sought by carjackers, suggesting that the assailants might > > have followed Joyal home rather than waited there to attack him. > > Police have described the suspects as two black males. > > > > Joyal, a longtime critic of the Putin regime, said on "Dateline" that > > Litvinenko's poisoning -- with polonium-210, a rare radioactive > > isotope -- was an act of "political retribution." Speculation that > > Putin and the Russian government were involved in Litvinenko's death > > in November has been widespread, in part because Litvinenko was > > looking into the killing of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. > > Putin and Kremlin officials have denied involvement. > > > > For some, the possibility of a conspiracy in the shooting of Joyal was > > compounded by the recent death of another person featured in the TV > > segment. > > > > Daniel McGrory, 54, a reporter for the Times of London, died at his > > home Feb. 20. MSNBC reported that McGrory's cause of death was a heart > > attack. > > > > Joyal was shot hours after meeting with a former KGB general, Oleg > > Kalugin, near the Spy Museum in Washington. Kalugin, a family friend > > and a member of the museum's board, has said he was shocked when > > Joyal's wife called later that evening to tell him that Joyal had been > > shot. > > > > Joyal, who was struck in the groin, remained hospitalized Saturday. > > His condition could not be determined yesterday. > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301077_pf.html > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301077_pf.html> > > > > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301077_pf.html > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301077_pf.html>> > > > > Nuclear Warhead Plan Draws Opposition > > Some Lawmakers Are Against New Weapon, While Others Seek Justification > > > > By Walter Pincus > > Washington Post Staff Writer > > Sunday, March 4, 2007; A05 > > > > The selection of a basic design for what could become a new generation > > of U.S. nuclear warheads has drawn immediate opposition from some key > > members of Congress. > > > > The National Nuclear Security Administration announced on Friday that > > it had selected a design by the California-based Lawrence Livermore > > National Laboratory for the Reliable Replacement Warhead (RRW). It > > would be the first of a new generation of secure and reliable nuclear > > warheads initially intended for the Navy's submarine-launched > > intercontinental ballistic missiles. > > > > Within the next 12 months, a team from Livermore and the Navy is to > > put together cost estimates and an engineering and production plan > > that would be presented to Congress next year for approval, according > > to acting NNSA Administrator Thomas P. D'Agostino. > > > > Rep. Peter J. Visclosky (D-Ind.), the new chairman of the House > > Appropriations subcommittee that controls the funds for the nuclear > > weapons complex, has sharply questioned why a new warhead is needed. > > Saying the NNSA announcement "puts the cart before the horse," he > > called on the Bush administration to present a "clear, coherent > > national policy" to justify the new warhead. > > > > Visclosky said he plans to hold oversight hearings and may seek to > > slow or eliminate the RRW if the administration does not present a > > strategy "that defines the future mission, the emerging threats, and > > the specific U.S. nuclear stockpile necessary to achieve the strategic > > goals." > > > > The same subcommittee, under the previous chairman, Rep. David L. > > Hobson (R-Ohio), helped eliminate the Bush administration's plan to > > develop a nuclear "bunker buster" weapon and, instead, initiated a > > program to upgrade the reliability of the current stockpile of Cold > > War weapons. The Bush administration turned this into a program to > > develop a new nuclear warhead. > > > > Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a longtime opponent of new nuclear > > weapons, has declared that she is "100 percent opposed" to building > > the RRW. A member of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee that funds > > the nuclear complex, she said in a statement: "While I appreciate the > > fact that Lawrence Livermore was selected, this in no way answers my > > questions about the Reliable Replacement Warhead program." > > > > She questioned how other countries would view the U.S. effort to > > develop new nuclear weapons at the same time that the United States is > > pushing Iran, North Korea and other countries to drop nuclear weapons > > programs. > > > > > >
