Personally, I don't like the old one or this one. I also don't think
we should hang at the first "logo paradigm" someone offers and try to
improve it untill it's "ok".

How about an open contest with professional-reviews? I'll explain it
better: anyone who wants makes a logo and submits it to the contest.
We obviously have some people on the mailing list that "knows about
logos", their rules, the good design tricks, etc, so all these formal
designers would write some reviews about the entries and only after
that the voting would take place.

Another thing: I'm not a designer (in the sense I didn't had any
formal learning of the subject), but I do know that the logo does not
come alone, it comes with everything else: the font type used, the
visual aspect of the website, the flash-screen of the software... So
the people who submit the logos to this contest should also submit
their logo's consequence in everything else: what font will it be used
with this logo? What color? What kind of website? Etc.

Last point I want to make: one of the HUGE problems with free software
is the fact that it doesn't care much for some "details" as
proprietary software. Take Adobe Photoshop as an example: they don't
just have people who programs in their teams, they have photographers
that just sit there and say "this is important, this is irrelevant,
photographers work this way, photographers work that way". I've been
for a while in The Gimp forums, where the ruling philosophy is "If you
can't contribute with code, don't bug us with Gimp should have this
and Gimp should have that" - and that explains why so few
photographers use The Gimp.

Lumiera must avoid this, Lumiera should work the same way Blender
worked: with people who don't know how to program but are pros in the
3D modeling and animation area, who can contribute to the project just
by using the software.

There are alot of people out there wiling to do, for free, stuff that
free-software so sadly disregards, like the quest for a good name, or
a good graphic interface and a good layout for websites, or just plain
using it and posting not just software bugs, but stuff like "I, as a
professional film-maker, wouldn't use Lumiera because it lacks this
and that".

And for now, have a nice weekend :)

Leandro Ribeiro

2008/3/13, Ichthyostega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > Thanks a lot for suggestions!
>  >
>  > I try to redraw logo with more motion and new ideas. Basically, I want
>  > to use the modern camera lens colors, anyway mind that this logo is only
>  > a draft!
>
>
> Hi Paolo,
>
>  good Idea, seems better than the fist one.
>
>  One point -- please try to avoid any colours as much as you can (exception is
>  one single "signal" colour). And please, don't use gradients, transparency 
> etc.
>
>  The art of designing a logo is about creating a simple, recognisable shape
>  which expresses some idea. If a logo is only cool if it is rendered with 
> funny
>  colours, transparency and shiny gradients, it's worthless.
>
>  As some others pointed out already, the round shape could be a lens or could
>  be a DVD. This sort of aproach is definitively good, because it can be made
>  incisive, bringing several related ideas into one single symbol.
>
>  thanks again for you contribution,
>  Cheers,
>  Hermann V.
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