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schoappied schrieb:
> In this week I did my first video project on Linux. And besides the fact that
>  there are a lot of possibilities and changes for linux video, there is still
>  a long way to go imho.

> I used for about 5 different apps to get something done (e.g. synchronize 
> video and sound and get it on a dvd). I had to face apps who couldn't deal 
> with certain files formats and apps which contains a lot of bugs, some come 
> abroad after 5 hours work...

you aren't alone!

> Other apps where quite difficult to use, especially the powerful but 
> difficult commandline apps.


Hi schoappied,

yes, indeed, that sounds like a good proposal. Video handling on Linux
really could benefit from "one central place" to watch. And, probably,
this central place should not be tied to one of the applications or
developer camps.

> I don't have much experience with video editing on Linux. But I read a couple
>  of articles about it last week and it seems that linux video is not as good 
> as it should be... especially not for newbies.

Regarding developers, Richard Spindler started a mailing list called
"openvideo" and did a terrific job to bring together many of the core
developers of the various projects. Indeed, the situation has much changed
when compared to 2 or three years ago. We developers realized, there won't
be just one application, but we all share the same common problems and can
collaborate on the level of exchanging ideas, solution approaches or even
library solutions. But, I think I'll be speaking for many developers when
saying that my feeling is we have still some way to go and some hard work
to do in order to reach such a level of integration which could be titled
as "the next step for video on linux"

> I think linux audio was in the same situation some years ago. I do work with 
> linux audio, so I know that situation better. They  started a consortium for 
> linux audio users, developers etc. check www.linuxaudio.org

Well, I think, having something comparable for video would be a good thing.
But it probably can't be initiated by the developers of a specific application.
They are too much focussed on the technical problems (which are exceptionally
challenging especially for video). And, moreover, I wouldn't be surprised if
we see the formation of several "camps" in the near future, for example the
"ffmpegers", the "gstreamers", the "gmerliners" -- well, I am just just
conjecturing here!

So bottom line is: I think such an initiative should be started from the user's
side, i.e. by advanced, interested and open minded users. I wouldn't expect the
developers to start such a site. We have more then enough things to tackle
sitting right in our code. :-)

> I will send this email to the lists of Cinelerra, kdenlive, openmovieeditor 
> and kino. I'll also post a message in some IRC chatchannels...

Hehe, excuse my shameless plug, but guessing from this list it seems you aren't
aware of http://Lumiera.org . But anyway, as Lumiera is very closely related to
cinelerra, we lumiera devs are hanging out here too ;-)

Thanks for bringing up this topic

Hermann Vosseler
(aka "Ichthyo")



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