Thanks for that.  I suspected that bit-rate was a factor, too.

I don't actually specify bit rate anywhere; I've just followed the cookbook.

Bit rate is implicitly set, I expect, by the '-target ntsc-dvd' option on 
ffmpeg;
and I suppose that the 'YUV4MPEG Stream' and 'ffmpeg pipe' settings determine 
the bit rate that Cinelerra will generate.

So, now I need to figure out where to throttle the bit-rate without conflicting 
with, or overriding, any other parameters that I should care about.
If 2-5 MB/s can produce acceptable video, that's certainly worth being told.

This puts me on a path!  Thanks again!

(To be clear, my 'half-an-hour' estimate is based on actual experience using 
high street '4.7 GB' media.)



On 2009-02-23 03:54, mskala wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, John Detwiler wrote:
> > 3. Standard DVD+R have 4.7 GB capacity, and hold about half an hour of
> > mpg's.  My finished project (including 'feature' and 'extras') will be
> > at least 60-90 minutes altogether.
> 
> DVD+R discs don't hold "half an hour" of MPEG video.  They hold 4.7G, and
> how much time that is depends entirely on the bit rate.  There isn't one
> standard bit rate that everybody uses.  In order to fill a DVD in half an
> hour you must be using a bit rate of about 20Mbps, which is almost
> certainly *much* too high.  Many decoders won't even operate properly when
> fed such a high-rate stream; I think the spec sets a maximum of about
> 10Mbps.  Commercially published DVDs routinely fit several hours on a
> single regular-density 4.7G disc, with bit rates as low as 2Mbps.  Try
> reducing your bit rate by a factor of at least five.
> 
> Is it possible you're estimating based on the space consumption of
> uncompressed video, or the output of some kind of camcorder that does
> some other kind of compression, like DV?
> 
> 


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