On 18/01/12 14:07, Nick Hilliard wrote:

Gert, hardware upgrades need to happen; otherwise we would all be stuck
using bus interfaces designed in the early 1990s.  Nobody likes paying for
upgrades, but Cisco's 67xx line cards have been properly supported since
2003 - 9 years ago.  If you bought them then on a 4Y depreciation basis,
you would now have had 5 years of free operation.   In a fast-moving world
like networking, this really is unusually stable and a very good
investment.  Moreover, they still have good resale value.

I tend to agree with this. Our sup720 have been really REALLY good boxes, with exceptionally good lifetime.

In fact, with the exception of a couple of features (IPv6 uRPF springs to mind) and the low 10gig port density, they still compare favourably with current-generation kit for certain workloads.

I tend to think of them as the swiss army knife. You *could* buy a large array of random different boxes from other vendors, but why bother?

That said: the sup2T would have been a KILLER box if it had been delivered on time. Now: not so much. The slow delivery and presence of the N7k give me cause for concern. The "roadmap out to space year 3000" rings a bit false, frankly...

Also: X2. ARGH! At least you can buy the SFP+ converters.


Re: DFCs, either you have distributed forwarding or you don't.  If you do,
you have much greater forwarding capacity.  If you don't, your network will
be cheaper to build.  Shifting bits costs money.

Couple of points.

First: 6708. One-off mistake (DFC can't be upgraded) but if you bought into this linecard, I imagine you'd be irate...

Second: I'm curious if people are seeing prices that "make sense" for the DFC4 upgrade parts for 67xx linecards. They were about 50% more than the equivalent DFC3 parts. When we costed out the upgrade of our main core routers to sup2T, the DFC parts made it quite pricey, and pushed us to look at "more radical" options.
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