On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:

>  Sampled netflow is certainly more operationally useful than no netflow.

Concur, and this is what the majority of network operators use.

Unfortunately, pre-Sup2T 6500s can't really do sampled NetFlow.  Instead, in 
any kind of environment with flow key diversity (e.g., the Internet), they 
often end up with flow table insertion errors due to the lack of packet-sampled 
control of flow creation (i.e., what we commonly refer to as 'sampled NetFlow), 
and so the stats are non-deterministically skewed, in addition to the lack of 
TCP flags and lack of stats on dropped traffic.

The type of sampling that pre-Sup2T 6500s perform is actually flow telemetry 
export sampling, which is essentially taking flow telemetry which may well 
already be skewed due to the aforementioned table insertion errors, and then 
making it even less accurate due to sampling, heh.

One can check one's 6500s in order to see if table insertion errors are 
occurring, and I recommend doing so for anyone who's running pre-Sup2T 6500s.  
The Sup2T and matching DFC4s (as well as CFC cards) provide robust, 
operationally-useful NetFlow, and also bring welcome improvements in ACLs and 
uRPF, as well - a highly-recommended upgrade, whenever feasible.

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