Definately , Have Experience .
Quick story then ill stop . I have been mocked for a few months on why it
has taken me 9 months + just to get to my CIT exam ( final 1) for CCNP . My
answer was if i had to fix a problem and did not know how to fix it then i
would loose my job . I didnt want to have such credentials without the
skills to back them UP . Now since i devoted my time and have 5+ yrs in WAN
and 7 in LAN all the pieces are fitting togeather . Without hands-on i would
be a paper certified book reader. WOW how much Can you make as a Certified
Book Readed. Just my 2 cents . Sorry if i offended anyone but the truth is .
Dont be a fake !..
Also Thanks to The LISt that has helped me in numerous ways in the past and
will in the future . Good Luck everyone !
>From: The Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Dollard Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CCNP and chances of finding a job
>Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:13:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Dollard,
>
>You've got a point. I think everyone on the list would
>agree that nothing can buy experience. It's
>invaluable. But how do you expect one to get
>experience when your job is limited to network &
>desktop support with an ocassional router install? Do
>you expect us all to get Cisco to employ us & give us
>the experience? It's a catch-22. Employers only want
>experienced people but not willing to give potential
>employees with paper CCNA, CCNP, for example, a chance
>to get that valuable experience. I guess that makes
>privileged people like yourself more invaluable and
>your job more secured.
>
>--- Dollard Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ken, WOW, congrats for that :) (thats the ken at
> > cisco)
> >
> > the other ken, yammy,
> > im sorry before hand, but im going to have to flame
> > you before you do
> > something stupid.
> > DONT GET UR CCNP without exp. thats the kind of
> > stuff, that ruined microsoft
> > certs, thats ruining the CCNA, and that will
> > eventually ruin the CCNP. on
> > top of that, you'll have a much easier time passing
> > the ccnp if you have
> > work experinence and get real life exposure to
> > networking.
> > i worked hard to get my ccnp, and im going for the
> > ccie now, and i'd love to
> > see my certs keep their value and not get
> > devalorized because some ppl think
> > its the easy road to getting the pot of gold. its
> > not, its a hard and
> > demanding job, theres always something to learn, and
> > always networks with
> > problems. a CCNP is expected certain things, and in
> > case you didnt know, if
> > cisco receives complaints about incompetent work on
> > your part, they can
> > revoke your certification. please do yourself a
> > favor by getting experience,
> > your employer might pay ur certs after that, with
> > training, and you'll wa
> > ste less time on your own doing so.
> > Morgan
> > PS, any1 who wishes to flame me on this subject is
> > free to do so, i
> > guarantee it wont look pretty in the end.
> > I've met one CCNP that had no exp and didnt know wtf
> > he was talking about,
> > and i hope for the others out there i never meet one
> > again.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De: K Sacca [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Date: jeudi 25 mai 2000 03:26
> > > À: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Objet: Re: CCNP and chances of finding a job
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > I received my CCNP almost two months ago. About 2
> > > weeks after receiving the cert, I started firing
> > off
> > > my resume everywhere. I received a call from
> > Cisco,
> > > as they were interested in my background. I
> > passed
> > > the phone screening, then passed the brutal face
> > to
> > > face interviews at Cisco with about 7 people. I'm
> > now
> > > working with the IOS WAN Test team. Before this
> > job,
> > > I had about 10 years of experience with desktop
> > > computers, network servers and Microsoft products.
> > I
> > > had a MCSE and a Compaq ASE. I made the switch to
> > > Cisco as I see problems down the road for
> > Microsoft.
> > > I think Sprint Paranet will also hire you with a
> > CCNP.
> > >
> > >
> > > Now the task of getting a CCIE should be
> > achievable
> > > since Cisco gave me my very own testbed loaded
> > with
> > > seven routers.
> > >
> > > Good Luck.
> > > Ken
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > > "ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > 000e01bfc5c5$bfdfaf00$0201a8c0@isamu">news:000e01bfc5c5$bfdfaf00$0201a8c0@isamu...
> > > > What are the chances of a CCNP finding a job
> > without
> > > > prior work experience
> > > > with routers and such? I'm debating this issue
> > with
> > > > my girfriend. She
> > > > thinks that job experience is more important,
> > and
> > > > that I should be looking
> > > > for a job to move me up. I, on the other hand,
> > > > don't think I can find much
> > > > of a job with just a CCNA and would rather get a
> > > > CCNP, but I'm not quite
> > > > sure if just a CCNP by itself can land me a job.
> > Any
> > > > help would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > > > -ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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