I agree with Oz and the others. I offer a couple of thoughts which you may
or may not like...

1. Have you considered the armed forces? They're crying for people,
especially those who can do technical things. I don't know your age, so that
may be a factor--but give them a thought. The working conditions can be
crummy (yes, I have been there and done that, but the t-shirt wore out).
HOWEVER, if you show as much initiative in the service as you have so far,
you could wind up with experience any employer would love after 4 years.
You'd have a big change in your life.

2. Present yourself better. Look at your posting like an employer
would--you're showing laziness (and God knows, I fight lazy all the
time--but I do fight it) with your lack of capitalization and sloppy
writing. You never know who's lurking--there could be someone on this board
looking for your kind of drive. If it's not laziness it's a poor education
(and businesses are not interested in teaching remedial communication
skills). For all the geeky stuff people in this newsgroup do--and this place
is about as geeky as it gets (and close to my idea of heaven)--the
well-respected people here communicate well. Look at postings from any of
the following people: Howard Berkowitz, Kent Hundley, Chuck Larrieu, Joe
Martin, Priscilla Oppenheimer, etc (and I know I've left articulate people
out). They take the time to capitalize, to use good grammar, to present
their ideas well. You have shown tremendous drive for a better technical
life up to now--don't cast doubt on it by creating a bad impression of the
rest of your character.

Best of luck!

Annlee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Let's talk about this for a minute or two, just to clear something that
has
> been inside of me for a while, since i joined this group about a year ago
I
> hear lots of you say
> " get experience", like it is somenthing you just go to the grocery store
and
> buy it, if it was like that, i would gather as much money as i could, to
buy
> the most i can.
>     Take me for example, I have been parking cars for 7 years now at $
7.50
> an hour,
> In 1997, because i wanted to improve my way of life, i started buying and
> studying books, first I got my A+ cert, Then my MCP, right now i only need
2
> electives to have the MCSE, then i got my Network+, then my CCNA, from the
> ccnp i passed the acrc and the cit, I bought all the cisco books for the
> ccnp, the ccda,ccdp,ccie, i even took the ccie written , of course i
failed,
> but it is a good experience, and i think the acrc is a harder exam, but
the
> ccie is a more broader exam.
>     going back to the main topic, I started studying because nobody would
> hire me because i do not have neither the knowledge nor the experience
that i
> needed, now I have, not all the knowledge but some, as far as the A+ goes
i
> feel confident, i have asembled and sold over a few years maybe 100
> computers, as far as my troubleshooting skills i feel more than good, as
far
> as the rest goes, i have a small network at home, not with routers,
because i
> cannot afford them, i have 4 workstations and 2 servers, so i practice a
lot.
>     Since i joined this group i hear you people talking about getting
> experience, about paper Vs hands on, AT first nobody hires you because you
do
> not have the knowledge or the experience, then somehow you manage to get
some
> knowledge,
> but then again, this time nobody hires you because you do not have the
> experience, and you people talk about it , the so much appreciated
experience
> , like it is so easy
> to get
>     I have posted my resume all over, willing to start with anything, but
> whoever calls, the first question is, Where have you worked before?, how
long
> have your worked in the industry?, as soon as I tell them my experience is
> with a small network i have at home, they think for a minute or two, thet
> said i call you back, but they never do.
>     I have spent Ks of dollars, and i am convinced that it is not worth ,
to
> keep spending more in the sense of trying to get a better life, it is
almost
> impossible; in the sense of getting knowledge is a good thing to do, but
up
> to certain limits.
>
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