Thanks for summing it up Chuck... :-)

Bharat Suneja

""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I've been tossing this around for a bit now. Even posted a preliminary on
> the cciecert list. I call it The Seven Habits of Highly Successful CCIE's"
>  my apologies to a good writer of a good book )
>
> But from my early days on this list I have been saving the words and
wisdom
> of folks who have attained the prize, and have offered their advice. My
self
> help guru, after all, maintains that one secret to success is modeling.
Find
> someone who has what you want, find out those things that person does
> consistently, do those things yourself, and you can't help but attain the
> same success.
>
> So far, here are things I have gleaned:
>
> 1) Love what you do. Seems silly, but I have noticed that folks whom I
> admire who have attained the prize really love what they do.  So much so
> that they are able to leverage that love into the hours necessary to
master
> the material.
> 2) Learn something new every day. One command. One subtlety. One concept.
> 3) Help others.  In teaching another one can find clarity in one's own
> thinking
> 4) Document everything. Practice documentation when you read a lab, when
you
> set up a lab, when you try different show and debugs. Document the
results.
> Compare those results with what you predicted when you first read the lab
> and drew out your sketches.
>
> There will be more.
>
> But I have to say, recent posts by our newer CCIE's, have only reinforced
> the value and the importance of good study habits, and good work habits.
No
> one that I have known who has attained the CCIE did so by accident. Or got
> lucky. All have done so with focus, determination, and a lot of structured
> work.
>
> My congratulations to all who have made it. And all who will  soon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Greg
> Myran
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 6:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: New CCIE
>
> This is excellent advice, and virtually identical to the method I found
> successful when I passed last week in Halifax..
>
> It is unfortunate Bruce Caslow is not on this list to see how well his
> methodology is helping people get through the CCIE lab..
>
>
> Greg Myran
> CCIE# 5906
>
>
> At 08:00 PM 5/29/2000 , Joe Martin wrote:
> >I have a method that I used for the lab.  Mostly developed by Bruce
Caslow
> >and specified in his book.  Here's how I start things out.  This is all
> >generic information that I used for all my prep work.  None of this
> material
> >is specific to the CCIE lab.
> >
> >1-Read the entire lab.  Think of all the issues involved with the
protocols
> >and the topology.
> >2-Write down specific info in a list regarding IP addressing and
interfaces
> >and summarization.
> >3-Draw a REALLY nice drawing of the network.  Leave plenty of room to
write
> >in addressing info.
> >4-Label the drawing with all the interface number.
> >5-Use different colored pencils for different routing and routed
protocols
> >6-Fill in all the IPs from the list you created.
> >7-Then fill in the rest of the IPs from the allowed block.
> >8-As you read the exam, look to see if they specify summarizing so that
you
> >create an IP scheme that can be summarized.
> >look at each router and write down the type/IOS version/IOS name
> >9-Create a script in notepad with all the common commands that you want
on
> >each router and paste this onto each one.  Put the command "hostname "
last
> >so you can just type in the name of your router and your finished.
> >10-Next, put the IP addressing on all of the routers.  As you do this do
> >whats necesary to turn up the interfaces.  Frame Relay/mapping, clock
> rates,
> >ISDN/ppp/username/dialer-list.
> >11-After doing this on each router, go thru and ping each interface,
local
> >and neighbor.  Make sure they are all reachable.  Doing this now keeps
you
> >from wondering if you have a layer 1,2,3 problem and not a routing
problem
> >that may show up in the steps to come.  Remember to that many multipoint
> >interface types don't allow you to ping your local interface without some
> >extra programming.  Also remember spoke to spoke reachability in
partially
> >meshed NBMA networks.
> >12-After doing this, start the main portion of the lab.
> >13-Try to save access lists to the end.  Remember what access lists will
do
> >to your network.  It can block DLSW, or routing protocols or AURP
appletalk
> >tunnels, etc...
> >14-Try to get done early enough that you can reload your routers and make
> >sure everything comes up OK.  Remember that a reload could change your
> >router ID for OSPF and mess up your virtual tunnels.  But, by IPing all
of
> >your routers before appying routing protocols will help avert these types
> of
> >problems.
> >
> >THINK, THINK, THINK.
> >
> >Other tips:
> >     IPX ROUTING X.X.X where X=your router number.  Ex. Router 1 will
> become
> >IPX ROUTING 0001.0001.0001
> >         This tip makes it easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and
> IPX
> >ping testing.
> >     APPLETALK CABLERANGE X-X X.Y where Y=router number.
> >         This also makes if easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping
and
> >apple ping testing
> >
> >JOE
> >CCIE #5917
> >
>
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