I think this issue can be taken in a much more practical sense.  It's
quite obvious that a very large majority of the people on this list
already work in the technology field, some of which have contacts inside
Cisco.  If anyone from Cisco is monitoring this list, or gets copies of
emails that may violate NDA's, it would not be difficult for them to
contact one of the individuals cc'd on the message, or contact the list
owner and track down received: headers from the originating poster.  If
you have concerns about NDA violation in what you're posting and don't
want to have your certifications revoked for any reason, then you
probably shouldn't post your question in this public forum.

David

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         -----Original Message----- 
         From: TyRhon144000 
         To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
         Sent: 5/30/00 2:47 PM 
         Subject: Value of Cisco certifications 

         Is there any way Cisco can make their certifications
challenging enough, 
         that they can give a realistic estimate of a person's skills? 
         I really don't believe that there is such a thing as 
         paper-certification, 
         everyone's certification comes on paper and everyone has to do
some 
         amount 
         of study to get certified. Yet, as a CCNA myself, I would like
for all 
         of 
         Cisco certifications to reflect real world knowledge. 
         I applaud Cisco for making the CCIE as challenging as it is. I
am also 
         happy 
         that just about every CCIE lives up to the NDA. If only those
who have 
         obtained other certifications from Cisco lives up to the NDA,
then maybe 
         some of their other certifications will not lose credibility. 
         Is there anything, that we can do to preserve the credibility
of Cisco 
         certifications? 
         T. Knox

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