What is Robert's book? What is the title? By Robert who?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Healis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CID exam


I have to agree that this test is old, and a bit ambiguous on many
questions.  An example: I ran across a question that asks you to select the
best answer about a protocol but don't tell you what protocol they are
asking about.  All I did, at that point, was try to remember what protocols
were focused upon in the reading material and guess at the answer.

I will say that I used Robert's book to study for this exam, and I enjoyed
his inserts about "real world networking". This exam displays how old it is
in the questions it asks about technologies, and Robert's book lets you know
that even though you must know this subject for the exam it isn't too
prominent in the real world.

As for taking the test again... I passed this morning, with a dramatic
increase in score: from 64% to 89%
And I am proud to change my signature. =)

Jim Healis, CCNP, CCDP
Senior Network Engineer
wine.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CID exam

Will Cisco be rewriting the CID exam soon? I notice that the CCDP 2.0 list
still includes CID 3.0 640-025.

The test is ancient, and many of the questions were written to certify
instructors. (I have inside information on this! ;-) Some of these
questions miss the mark for people who won't be teaching the class.

Priscilla


At 09:31 AM 6/1/2000 -0700, Robert Padjen wrote:
>I think that most people fail to understand that the
>CID exam is perhaps the most unique of the series.
>There is no practicality, and, while I was
>disappointed with the age of the exam, I thought that
>it opened the door to the design world better than the
>technical exams - routing, switching, etc. Since I
>love design I went beyond these parameters and wrote
>roughly 50% of the study guide (Sybex) in that vain
>and added material like DSL and multicast.
>
>I think that all of us have been frustrated with the
>exams from a style, content or focus perspective from
>time to time. I also know that CID is generally
>regarded as a hard exam - I disagree - and a lot of
>people have avoided the CCDP track from this fear.
>
>A suggestion would be to participate in the beta
>program offered by Cisco. The tests are free, and I
>like to fool myself into thinking that they read the
>lengthy comments that I make. My understanding is that
>there is a group that reviews comments from both the
>betas and the live exams, so, as long as you don't
>have a time limit concern, use that avenue and
>hopefully you/we can effect the certification process.
>
>
>
>--- Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> that CID test sucks!!!!
>>
>> -Brad Ellis
>> CCIE#5796
>> CCDP, CCNA, MCNE, MCSE
>> ""Jim Healis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Have you ever had one of those times where you
>> took a test, marked a
>> > question because you weren't sure about it, and
>> then changed the answer...
>> > only to find out that you failed the exam by one
>> percentage point?
>> >
>> > That happened to me today...
>> > My overall scores in each area were about what I
>> expected them to be...
>> but
>> > I never expected to fail by one question. Talk
>> about a downer!
>> > But I take the test again tomorrow morning... and
>> I now know what I need
>> to
>> > focus on: ATM and SNA (my two week points).
>> >
>> > Wish me luck!
>> >
>> > Jim Healis, CCNP, CCDA
>> > Senior Network Engineer
>> > wine.com
>> >
>> >



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