I guess I should answer. Robert Padjen is a really
nice guy who writes incredible texts on a myriad of
subjects. <g> He also takes whatever opportunity he
can for shameless self-promotion!
The Sybex CID book that I wrote is at:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0782126391/o/qid%3D956769507/sr%3D8-1/ref%3Daps%5Fsr%5Fb%5F1%5F1/002-5146195-9236860
although it is now in Borders and on BN.com. I'm sure
FatBrain and the others have it too.
Congrats Jim! That's a great accomplishment.
Priscilla - Interesting comments. I haven't heard
about any update to the test and it isn't in the beta
track yet, so that would lead one to think we're at
least six months from a revision - likely more. I
would think that the CCIE Design will start to define
what the new exam would be like.
--- "Westmoreland, Alexis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is Robert's book? What is the title? By Robert
> who?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Healis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CID exam
>
>
> I have to agree that this test is old, and a bit
> ambiguous on many
> questions. An example: I ran across a question that
> asks you to select the
> best answer about a protocol but don't tell you what
> protocol they are
> asking about. All I did, at that point, was try to
> remember what protocols
> were focused upon in the reading material and guess
> at the answer.
>
> I will say that I used Robert's book to study for
> this exam, and I enjoyed
> his inserts about "real world networking". This exam
> displays how old it is
> in the questions it asks about technologies, and
> Robert's book lets you know
> that even though you must know this subject for the
> exam it isn't too
> prominent in the real world.
>
> As for taking the test again... I passed this
> morning, with a dramatic
> increase in score: from 64% to 89%
> And I am proud to change my signature. =)
>
> Jim Healis, CCNP, CCDP
> Senior Network Engineer
> wine.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CID exam
>
> Will Cisco be rewriting the CID exam soon? I notice
> that the CCDP 2.0 list
> still includes CID 3.0 640-025.
>
> The test is ancient, and many of the questions were
> written to certify
> instructors. (I have inside information on this! ;-)
> Some of these
> questions miss the mark for people who won't be
> teaching the class.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> At 09:31 AM 6/1/2000 -0700, Robert Padjen wrote:
> >I think that most people fail to understand that
> the
> >CID exam is perhaps the most unique of the series.
> >There is no practicality, and, while I was
> >disappointed with the age of the exam, I thought
> that
> >it opened the door to the design world better than
> the
> >technical exams - routing, switching, etc. Since I
> >love design I went beyond these parameters and
> wrote
> >roughly 50% of the study guide (Sybex) in that vain
> >and added material like DSL and multicast.
> >
> >I think that all of us have been frustrated with
> the
> >exams from a style, content or focus perspective
> from
> >time to time. I also know that CID is generally
> >regarded as a hard exam - I disagree - and a lot of
> >people have avoided the CCDP track from this fear.
> >
> >A suggestion would be to participate in the beta
> >program offered by Cisco. The tests are free, and I
> >like to fool myself into thinking that they read
> the
> >lengthy comments that I make. My understanding is
> that
> >there is a group that reviews comments from both
> the
> >betas and the live exams, so, as long as you don't
> >have a time limit concern, use that avenue and
> >hopefully you/we can effect the certification
> process.
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> that CID test sucks!!!!
> >>
> >> -Brad Ellis
> >> CCIE#5796
> >> CCDP, CCNA, MCNE, MCSE
> >> ""Jim Healis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> >>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Have you ever had one of those times where you
> >> took a test, marked a
> >> > question because you weren't sure about it, and
> >> then changed the answer...
> >> > only to find out that you failed the exam by
> one
> >> percentage point?
> >> >
> >> > That happened to me today...
> >> > My overall scores in each area were about what
> I
> >> expected them to be...
> >> but
> >> > I never expected to fail by one question. Talk
> >> about a downer!
> >> > But I take the test again tomorrow morning...
> and
> >> I now know what I need
> >> to
> >> > focus on: ATM and SNA (my two week points).
> >> >
> >> > Wish me luck!
> >> >
> >> > Jim Healis, CCNP, CCDA
> >> > Senior Network Engineer
> >> > wine.com
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>
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