With houses in the 100-200k range you are doing real well.

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Mark Holloway
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:41 PM
To: Kevin S. Mahler; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries


NOTE: I am not a CCIE yet.

I'm 26, work as a Level 2 WAN admin (out of 4 levels, and getting promoted
to a 3 shortly), and make a base of $60k (and a $3k sign on bonus when I
started) + $12k added to my salary for being on call 24x7x365.  This is in
Las Vegas which is typically considerd a very low-end of the marketplace
(because the Casinos are cheap as hell!  Never work in one! I did and it
sucked!  Besides, they are ALL Token Ring because of the sheel number of
IBM/AS400 dominance.  I now work 10 miles away from the strip).  I only get
called once or twice a week, usually I can resolve the issue from home.
Prior to this job I had my MCSE and CCNA (Jan 1999, worked at the Tropicana
Hotel as a Network Admin), although I now realize more than ever that hands
on is the only true measure of ones abilities.  When I completed my MCSE I
knew right away I had wasted 10 weeks of my time taking 6 exams in relation
to my career, but I did learn alot about NT and was glad for my own sake of
knowledge, but nothing I would want to brag about to other "System admins".
In 99% of the REAL network jobs, the Network Administrator is not
responsible for Servers or operating systems.  The only concern should be
packets, cells, circuits, troublshooting, and monitoring, among a few
others.  Forget Exchange, SQL Server, NT Domains, and all that other crap.
Don't get me wrong, it's good to know, but only for your own knowledge and
troubleshooting purposes, don't let your employer make your responsible for
that crap.  A Senior Level Network Administrator should never have to worry
about the work of System Administrators and an Operations department.  BTW,
I heard Sprint Long  Distance (not Sprint the loca carrier or Paranet/ENS)
is offering CCIEs $120k + $30k sign on bonus.  This came straight from one
of their enigneers.


----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin S. Mahler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries


> No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now.
>
> :)
>
> Kevin
>
>
> At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote:
> >3com in Milpitas pays that much?  Dang..
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Ryan Ward
> >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
> >
> >
> >FYI...
> >
> >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both
got
> >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also
have
> >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little
> >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises.
> >
> >-Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Brad Ellis
> >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
> >
> >
> >Chad,
> >
> >With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still
need
> >to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard
to
> >get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't
pay
> >OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After that
> >experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.
> >
> >Keep chugging along!
> >-Brad
> >""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months
of
> > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
> > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
> > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems
low
> >to
> > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
> > >
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