If you want to setup a home lab, I have a CCNA kit available for $1900 + S/H
(I can take Visa/MC/Amex)
it includes
(2) routers w/ 16MB DRAM and 8MB Flash
    (cisco 2501/2502)
(1) Token Ring Media Filter
(1) Token Ring Mau
(1) Ethernet Transceiver
(1) Ethernet Crossover Cable
(1) Ethernet Patch Cable
(1) Serial crossover cable (DB60-DB60)
(1) Console Cable Kit
(1) DOCS CD
(1) IOS & Study materials CD

If you are interested and you live in the continental US, your total will be
$1950 (including
S/H costs).

Let me know if you have any questions.

ttyl,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796

""Mathieu Nantel"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8iqlb8$pp7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8iqlb8$pp7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mr. Ellis,
>
> you are selling routers? I am new to Cisco and following a ICND course
right
> now. I am aiming at the CCIE, but I know that I am gonna need a lot of
hands
> on experience. What are you selling and at what price? What would you
> recommend me to do in order to train myself? Lab simulators or a real
router
> lab?
>
> Mathieu Nantel, CNE5
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ""Brad Ellis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8ifvkg$qli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8ifvkg$qli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You're too new to complain about the group.  You're only allowed to
> complain
> > after you get your CCIE!!!
> >
> > I jumped straight from a CCNA to a CCIE.  Although, I didnt study for my
> > CCNA AT ALL and Ive been in the business for 7+ years.  It depends on
your
> > experience level. If you've been doing WAN/networking for a long time,
go
> > ahead, jump straight to the CCIE.  If not, build a better foundation and
> get
> > your CCNP first.
> >
> > -Brad Ellis
> > CCIE#5796
> > p.s. if you need any routers, let me know.  I can sell you a complete
lab.
> >
> > "deltan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > (seems the list server lost some mail on saturday?!
> > > anyways i am sending my mail again - my apologies if
> > > you see it twice).
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > greetings from a newbie in this group!
> > >
> > > i finally took my CCNA last week with a score a little
> > > over 900.  however, i only got 40% in network
> > > security,
> > > which i have NO way to believe!!  i am confident in
> > > what i was tested regarding that part, and i used to
> > > work in network security with a tier-1 ISP plus i use
> > > ipfw on UNIX on a daily basis (access lists are pretty
> > > much closed-type ip fw, imho).  anyway, i am very much
> > > curious to know what the heck i answered wrong (if the
> > > test system had no fault)! -- is there ANY way to talk
> > > to cisco to find out -- i'm willing to pay! :)
> > >
> > > now questions:
> > >
> > > 1) any comments (pros/cons) on skipping CCNP and
> > > taking
> > >    CCIE (written) directly?  some people did that.
> > > 2) any recommended books (and courses) for CCNP and
> > >    CCIE (written)?
> > >
> > > being new to this group, i wanna express how i feel
> > > here.  sad but true, i had to delete 3/4 or more of
> > > the
> > > postings i got from this list before i started to see
> > > interesting stuff (i personally think 1/2 "garbage"
> > > is OK but 3/4 is a little too much).  sorry for being
> > > fussy! ;)
> > >
> > > deltan 8)
> > >
> > >
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