As far as I know, they are both equal. So you can do it by either way.
Please someone correct.

Thanks a lot guys,


On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:08:56 -0700 (PDT), Kent wrote:

>  Wizards,
>  
>  As the FRTS has been brought up here, I really want to
>  take this chances to get some help from you in
>  understanding this. 
>  
>  When we enable the 'frame-relay traffice shaping'
>  under the inferface, we start using frame-relay
>  traffice shaping not generic shaping, right?
>  
>  in the map-class of frame relay, we can configure CIR,
>  Bc and Be, how is this different from just configure
>  'traffic-rate xx yy' in the map-class?
>  
>  As far as I understand, it is not quite effective to
>  controll QoS in FR, I am not sure whether someones
>  have seen some detailed perfermence comparation betwee
>  two kinds of traffic shaping.
>  
>  Thanks
>  
>  Kent 
>   
>  --- Michael Fountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > The easiest way to do this is to only configure the
>  > CIR and Line speeds and 
>  > let the rest default.
>  > 
>  > Example commands -
>  > 
>  > int s0
>  > frame-relay traffic shapping    #### Enable FRTS on
>  > the interface
>  > frame-relay class ExampleClass  #### Shape as
>  > defined in map class
>  > 
>  > frame-relay map-class ExampleClass
>  > frame-relay traffic-rate XXX YYY       ### XXX =
>  > CIR, YYY = Max Speed
>  > traffic-rate adaptive-shaping becn     #### Use
>  > BECNs (not foresight)
>  >                                         #### for for
>  > thottling
>  > 
>  > 
>  >   If you set XXX to 512K and YYY to port speed, he
>  > will transmit at port 
>  > speed unless he receives BECNs from the network, and
>  > then he will throttle 
>  > down to 512K.
>  >   If you set both XXX and YYY to 512K he will always
>  > transmit at 512K
>  > 
>  >   Depending on your service provider and how
>  > congested their network is you 
>  > may be able to go in and buy a small CIR like 64K
>  > and then ignore that and 
>  > have your router set to send at 512K.  If you do
>  > that and some time in 
>  > future your SP starts dropping packets (because they
>  > are over CIR) you will 
>  > have to go to them and buy up your contracted CIR,
>  > but until then you can 
>  > save some money.  We've been running AT&T Frame
>  > Relay for a couple of years 
>  > and have yet to receive a single BECN.
>  > 
>  >   It is possible to go in and specify mincir, Bc,
>  > Be, etc.  But unless you 
>  > are going VOFR or some other application that has
>  > specific needs using 
>  > generic FRTS will cover just about everything.
>  > 
>  >   Hope that helps,
>  >         Mike
>  > 
>  > 
>  > >Guys,
>  > >
>  > >What are the parameters that I should configure on
>  > the router to control 
>  > >the
>  > >bandwidth usage of the user on a frame-relay
>  > configuration.
>  > >For instance, the user has T1 line and I need to
>  > provide him only 512k. Is
>  > >it the CIR, BE, BC, MINCIR, and traffic rate only ?
>  > >and how do I calculate them ?
>  > >
>  > >Thanks a lot
>  > >ME
>  > 
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