>John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous...
sorta kinda, I guess. The list can judge.
>No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention
>anything that was related to my concerns.
Your concerns being the inability to search Nortel's site and find
http://www.nortelnetworks.com/servsup/certification/framework.html
perhaps? And that there are multiple exams involved in NNCDS, so
there is no simple answer to your question?
Hint: Nortel does expect certified people to be able to do basic web searches.
Oh...you'll also find Nortel offers a good deal of free study
material for its basic certifications.
>If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you
>are doing some publicity to yourself on the web !!!!
>Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic.
Let me get this straight. You posted a question that you said is off
topic, dealing with Nortel. A senior manager at Nortel answered you.
You flamed for the answer not being on topic.
What would have been on topic from your perspective? Cisco's
analysis of Nortel exams?
>
>Thanks a lot
>
>On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>
> > >John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !
> > >
> > >Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
> > >Number of questions, how long the exam is .......
> > >I am gonna take the eam very soon.
> > >
> > >Thanx
> > >
> >
> > Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in
> > developing one certification exam so far, although the particular
> > product was cancelled. I am involved in internal conversations about
> > the direction and value of certifications.
> >
> > At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented
> > (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier
> > presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions
> > were definitely technical. There was an education/certification
> > manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so
> > experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior
> > level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product
> > architecture (me).
> >
> > I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in
> > Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site. Nothing
> > definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of
> > interest.
> >
> > Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level
> > architect, are rather different than Cisco's model. They rely less
> > on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of
> > medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real
> > networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be
> > evaluated by a panel of experts.
> >
> > I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to
> > make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that
> > there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not
> > tormenting them unnecessarily.
> >
> > "What Problem are you trying to solve?"
> > ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
> > directly to me***
> >
> > Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
> > Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID
>only)
> > but Cisco stockholder!
> > "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
> >
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