John,
How long have you been on the list? I had been here for over 10 months. If
you don't know Howard Berkowitz, then you don't know the good people on the
list. I had grown tried of people like you and now only read post of select
people. I ALWAYS read his post. He had written 3 books. He was/is on
various IETF working group. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? Guest what HE IS FAMOUS.
You will only be famous for your stupidity.
Albert Ip
CCNP CCDA MCSE
Kazootek.com
Senior Network Administrator
Howard,
Thanks again for all your help over the last months (not just to me but
everyone on the list). I just finish the address book and is starting on
the design book next.
OH, John. If you want to learn something, go read Howard's old post in the
archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: John lay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:13 AM
To: Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous...
No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention
anything that was related to my concerns.
If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you
are doing some publicity to yourself on the web !!!!
Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic.
Thanks a lot
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> >John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !
> >
> >Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
> >Number of questions, how long the exam is .......
> >I am gonna take the eam very soon.
> >
> >Thanx
> >
>
> Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in
> developing one certification exam so far, although the particular
> product was cancelled. I am involved in internal conversations about
> the direction and value of certifications.
>
> At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented
> (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier
> presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions
> were definitely technical. There was an education/certification
> manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so
> experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior
> level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product
> architecture (me).
>
> I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in
> Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site. Nothing
> definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of
> interest.
>
> Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level
> architect, are rather different than Cisco's model. They rely less
> on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of
> medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real
> networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be
> evaluated by a panel of experts.
>
> I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to
> make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that
> there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not
> tormenting them unnecessarily.
>
> "What Problem are you trying to solve?"
> ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
> directly to me***
>
> Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
> Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID
only)
> but Cisco stockholder!
> "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
>
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