Mea cupa, you are correct John!!

   Time to get outta here, I'm thirsty ;)

   Dave

John Neiberger wrote:
> I thought show conf was the equivalent of show start, not show run?  That
> seemed to cause an issue once with someone I was helping over the phone.  I
> wasn't aware that show config wasn't the same as show run and he had an
> issue similar to the original post in this thread.  He kept making changes
> to a config but show conf did not reflect those changes.  
> 
> Or at least I think that's what happened.  It's been a while.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>>>>MADMAN 5/30/03 1:34:27 PM >>>
>>>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
>>Bruce Enders wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What kind of output do you get after  the write mem or copy run
>>>start
>>
>>
>>Wasn't Cisco supposed to depricate "write mem?" I never learned those
> 
> forms
> 
>>of the commands because when I first started learning Cisco eight years
> 
> ago,
> 
>>Cisco said not to bother learning them because they were going away!
> 
> 
>    Yes I heard that in about 1995 but in 12.3.1 I can still use the old 
> "wr" for write mem, "sh ha" for sh ver, "sh conf" for sh runn and "wr t" 
> in place of sh runn.  I guess I'm a luddite :)
> 
> 
>>Then yesterday I discovered that my new PIX firewall wouldn't take "copy
> 
> run
> 
>>start?" Or was I making a typo or something? I had to reach into the back
> 
> of
> 
>>my mind and come up with "write mem" which I thought they were going to
> 
> get
> 
>>rid of. And I approved of that plan since it's totally non-intuitive. :-)
> 
> 
>    It used to be worse!  Yes the PIX is confusing in many respects when 
> accostomed to IOS CLI.  One thing they got right is you don't have to 
> subnet mask one way with interfaces and another with access-lists, 
> something I always hated about IOS!!
> 
> 
>>Speaking of non-intuitive, why DO we put up with the PIX? What a beast.
> 
> It
> 
>>took me all day to get it to do some simple forwarding. The thing is
>>expensive, slow, and almost impossible to configure. Why do we put up
> 
> with
> 
>>it? :-) Not being able to do "copy run start" took the cake.
> 
> 
>    Don't feel too bad, I am trying to get a simple static NAT for a mail 
> server working for a customer, should be simple, ya right, TGIF :)
> 
>    Dave
> 
> 
>>Rantings from a frustrated Cisco fan.
>>
>>Priscilla
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
> 
> "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
> can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson
-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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