""Evans, Timothy R (BearingPoint)"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Good Morning! > Statement 1: > In general - businesses are not well known for being altruistic in their > hiring & compensation practices. > > Statement 2: > Any good manager would be rather foolish to not appreciate, and compensate > accordingly, a hard-working and presumably valued employee. (S)He would > also be rather foolish to pay more than needed ... there is a delicate > balancing act, with a very precipitous fall into bankruptcy being one of the > major indications of failure! > > Caveats: NOTE - I said the following -incredibly- subjective things: > "good manager" > "foolish" > "accordingly" > "hard working" > "valued employee" > "needed" > > .. furthermore the "valued employee" part may be invoking a bit of circular > login, since the "value" may be seen as directly related to the > compensation. Alternatively - your level of compensation may also be more > indicative of what you WERE worth to the company AT ONE TIME, and if it > exceeds certain levels may actually decrease your overall value to the > company. ("the highest paid are the first to go")
Back in the days when baseball was understood to be the ultimate expression of American values, this may have been true. Take each individual and weigh his/her strengths and weaknesses, consider the overall value of heir contribution, and decide on that basis. These days, when football is king, what does that say about our values? That we are all specialists and we are all easily replaced. In fact, in a football model, the ideal is to churn and burn. > > .. let's get back to networking before I decide to go sell real estate ... Given the current real estate market, you may do far better financially. and no heavy lifting. :-> > Thanks! > TJ > -----Original Message----- > From: n rf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Technology, Certification, Skill Sets, and Loo [7:70953] > > Mark E. Hayes wrote: > > > > Ok Sen. McCarthy, > > > > Your response is Bolshevik, get it? ;) All I'm talking about is > > taking > > care of people who took care of you. As an employee I have an > > obligation > > to do x amount of work. I always do more than that, it's a > > pride thing. > > I want the business I work for to prosper. What is wrong with > > showing an > > employee like that some loyalty. > > Hey, if the employer wants to do that, there is nothing wrong at all. > What's 'wrong' is that you apparently expect them to do so. The employer is > obligated to compensate you for your time according to whatever employment > agreement you arranged when you were hired, nothing more, nothing less. If > you want to altruistically give time and effort above and beyond what is > necessary, that's your prerogative, but the employer is not obligated to > reward you for it, and if you're truly being altruistic, then you shouldn't > have anything to complain about, because altruism means to do something > without any expectation of recompense. > > Now, if you're not being altruistic and you are willing to do extraordinary > work but because you expect a reward for it, then you should play "Let's > Make a Deal". Tell your employer that you're willing to do this-and-that > task but only for such-and-such an increase in compensation or a similar > arrangement. But if you don't do that, you can't complain ex-post-facto. > > > > > **************************************************************************** ** > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > privileged. Access to this email by anyone other than the > intended addressee is unauthorized. If you are not the intended > recipient of this message, any review, disclosure, copying, > distribution, retention, or any action taken or omitted to be taken > in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not > the intended recipient, please reply to or forward a copy of this > message to the sender and delete the message, any attachments, > and any copies thereof from your system. > **************************************************************************** ** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=71399&t=71399 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
