Actually, this can be completely normal behavior for the PIX.
It has nothing to do with filtering or any magic or any bugs.


The ASA algorithm in the PIX will not set up an xlate for the inbound
traffic (as debugs will show) until the traffic is allowed from a higher
security interface to a lower one.

If the static (inside,*) is used ( * being dmz or outside) then it will
go ahead and place the xlate.

If you are using a NAT stmt and Global it will not. The traffic must
qualify for the xlate and then 2 way traffic can exist.

The only other rules ICMP has to deal with is for PAT (since there are
no "ports" in ICMP only literals.

This is overcome by the same method as overcoming GRE, a hash is created
and each packet is inspected.

Now, if you have a case where you have the static defined and your
conduit/ACL is correct THEN you may have found a bug. (I did a quick
check on Bug Navi and did not see any.

You just can't reason with a PIX like you can a router! It doesn't run
IOS!!

Thanks,
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
John Neiberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: do you know why? [7:72352]

PIXes, at least with previous releases, are highly directional in nature
and
will apply a different set of rules depending on the origin of the
traffic.
For example, traffic originating on an 'inside' interface is subject to
far
fewer restrictions, by default, whereas traffic originating on the
outside
is blocked by default. As has already been mentioned, ICMP has another
set
of rules that need to be dealt with in addition to the usual rules.

John

>>> Wilmes, Rusty 7/16/03 11:31:51 AM >>>
I'd think that if it was an access list that it would either work or not
work but NOT not work until you try it from the other side.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: do you know why? [7:72352]


I'm not very familiar with the newer releases of PIX software, but do
you
have to enable ICMP on those interfaces? It looks to me like you only
have
ICMP allowed going one direction. This is a very common problem and
easily
fixed. Also, if something is being blocked it should be apparent from
the
logs why it was blocked.

HTH,
John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vajira Wijesinghe" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: do you know why? [7:72352]


> I have a pix firewall and i have a strange problem.
> If any one of you have come across this pls let me know the solution.
>
> I have few servers at both sides of the PIX.
> eg. Server-A at Outside zone and Server-B at Inside zone.
>
> 1. When I ping from Server-B to Server-A, I get request timeout.
> 2. Now I go to Server-A and start a ping to Server-B. It works fine.
> 3. Then again I go back to Server-B to ping to Server-A, and now it
> starts pinging!!!
>
> Can anyone of you explain this???
> I need to get this thing resloved and straight away ping from B to A.
> Thanks.




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