At 2:22 PM +0000 7/26/03, Nakul Malik wrote:
>passport at heart an ATM switch????????/
>
>Passport is FR.
>
>-Nakul


  The Passport is internally a cell switch, onto which Nortel has 
overlaid a great many other features. Before I went to work for 
Nortel, I consulted on the BGP implementation, and later worked as a 
router designer in the corporate R&D lab -- often hearing "oh, we can 
make the Passport do that too."

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>""annlee""  wrote in message
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>  > John Neiberger wrote:
>>
>>  > I'm just now digging deeper into current VPN technologies since I'm
>>  > researching Qwest's PRN service. I'm awaiting a definitive answer from
>them
>>  > but it appears that their PRN service is 2764-based, which apparently
>means
>>  > it does not use MPLS like 2547-based VPNs. I'm curious about the
>>  > implications of choosing one model over the other.
>>  >
>>  > I thought the market trend was toward MPLS-based VPNs but 2764 seems to
>>  > argue against that. What are the implications of choosing one model
over
>>  the
>>  > other? Are there any major drawbacks to either one that the other
>>  > addresses?
>>  >
>>  > I'm also a little concerned about vendor choices. Nortel seems to be
>>  pushing
>>  > 2764, while Cisco and possibly Juniper are pushing 2547 and MPLS. Is
>that
>>  > correct? If so, is that really that important to the customer?
>>  >
>>  > Forgive me if these questions seem pretty vague. I'm still learning
>about
>>  > the technologies involved and I'm not very familiar with the specifics
>and
>>  > the terminology.
>>  >
>>  > I'll put in a plug here for Howard's book _Building Service Provider
>>  > Networks_. Among a number of things it discusses some of these VPN
>>  > technologies and has been very helpful the last couple of days during
my
>>  > research.
>>  >
>>  > John
>>  Also worth looking at is the hardware component: what will run on
>>  the hardware you've already got (if anything)? IF you already
>>  have most or all of the hardware pieces to implement Cisco's
>>  version, then Cisco's probably makes sense. IF you already have
>>  the requisite Nortel gear (Passports?), you're probably only
>>  looking at upgrading to a new PCR (software version).
>>
>>  And there's the training and management aspect -- which suite do
>>  you know better? Where is the rest of your network going--will
>>  money spent learning Passport command line be transferable to
>>  other devices, offering a savings there? My guess is no, but it
>>  could be possible. Finally, what's the underlying architecture --
>>  Passport at its heart is an ATM switch, and Nortel's VPNs using
>>  virtual routers still looks an awful lot like IP over ATM, with
>>  all the overhead in play there. If it's Passport they're pitching
>>  at you, have a good look at the layer 2 technology on switch
>>  egress. What I saw was:
>>
>>    [data+(local IP hdr)+(carrier IP hdr)+layer2 formatting]
>>
>>  as it went through the cloud. Potentially, that's a lot of
>>  overhead. If that's not a problem, fine.
>>
>>  Annlee




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