That is the point I needed clarification on.  Just seemed odd that the DR
would not be established first, followed by the BDR.  For a brief moment
when the routers are first started, there is no DR, but there is a BDR.  I
wonder what the logic for that is.

-----Original Message-----
From: Zsombor Papp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF DR and BDR elections [7:73504]


Technically, the BDR is elected first. If no router is claiming to be a DR,
then the BDR will be immediately promoted to DR. Nonetheless, the end result
is pretty much what the web page referenced below describes.

Thanks,

Zsombor

mccloud mike wrote:
> 
> The DR is elected first by highest priority, the tie breaker is
> highest RID. Then the process is repeated for the BDR.
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/104/2.html#10.1
> 
> My understanding is that if the DR goes down then the BDR is
> promoted to DR and an election is held for the new BDR. This
> means that when the original DR comes back up it can not become
> DR until both of the current DR and BDR go offline.
> 
> Cheers, Mike
> 
> DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote:
> > 
> > If I am understanding this correctly.  There are no routers up
> > in the
> > network.  I turn on 3 routers simultaneously at the same
> time.
> > The routers
> > will first select the BDR.  They will then look for the DR. 
> > Since none
> > exist, the BDR will be promoted to DR.  Then another election
> > will be held
> > to find a new BDR.  Is this correct?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zsombor Papp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:01 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: OSPF DR and BDR elections [7:73504]
> > 
> > 
> > The DR is not chosen from the "remaining list." The DR is
> > chosen from the
> > list of routers that declared themselves designated routers
> > (this is why a
> > high-priority router that comes up late won't take over the DR
> > role from an
> > existing DR), or if no router declared itself DR, then the BDR
> > will become
> > DR (this is why a high-priority router that came up late won't
> > necessarily
> > become DR even if the existing DR dies).
> > 
> > See RFC2328, Page 75 for more details.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Zsombor
> > 
> > DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote:
> > > 
> > > I am reading the CCNP/CCIP  BSCI Study Guide by Todd Lammle
> > > from Sybex.  In
> > > the OSPF section under the discussion of DR and BDR  (page
> > 171)
> > > he says that
> > > the BDR is chosen first and that the DR is chosen from the
> > > reaming list.
> > > That seems illogical and backwards.  Can someone please
> > confirm
> > > or deny and
> > > explain it.  Thanks
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