Ok, I sorta agree at the moment however other posters have mentioned Active
Directory connections and information on CCO makes mention of redundant Call
Managers and much more "Enterprise" type of scenarios so I think that maybe
the MCSE would be beneficial.

I was just surprised a bit because I don't personally know of anyone who has
qualified MCSE 2000 yet in my city with probably the largest IT
concentration in Canada.

Oh well, like I said - guess I have to study that now too!

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP/MCSE (3.51/4.0)..............

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, 24 August, 2000 07:47
Subject: Re: IP Telephony Specialization


> By necessary I meant I'm not an MCSE and I've successfully installed Call
> Manager. MCSE Required by Cisco yes, necessary to do the work no.
>
> Niall
>
> Kevin Wigle wrote:
>
> > It is necessary as the matrix clearly states "At least one CCNA must be
a
> > Microsoft Certified System Engineer on Win 2000".  This is for a Partner
> > specialization in IP Telephony - not the individual spec (CCNP - Voice)
> >
> > Thanks to you and other posters.  I wasn't aware that CCM was running on
> > NT - explains it I guess.
> >
> > I open my handy dandy Product Quick Ref and sure enough - pre-installed
on
> > Windows NT servers.  I'm not sure that a MCSE is required for this task,
> > probably just Win 2000 server would suffice but what the hey!  I guess
I'm
> > not through with my M$ certs after all.........
> >
> > This subject came up while I was enquiring to details on becoming a
Premier
> > Partner (currently just a plain ol' reseller).  Cisco phones me up with
some
> > details and asks me if I had given IP Tel any thought - they would be
> > "thrilled" if I would consider qualifying as an IP Tel Partner, it seems
> > that there are only 2 in Canada and those names aren't recognizable.
> >
> > Thanks again to the group for the quick info.
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> > CCDP/CCNP..............
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2000 19:08
> > Subject: Re: IP Telephony Specialization
> >
> > > Installation of Call Manager which runs on NT/2000. I really don't
think
> > it is
> > > "necessary" except that cisco wants to ensure at least a basic level
of
> > > NT/2000 skills.
> > >
> > > Niall
> > >
> > > Kevin Wigle wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Group,
> > > >
> > > > At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html
> > > >
> > > > one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony?
> > > >
> > > > I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how
> > Win2000
> > > > relates to IP Tel.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was
hoping
> > to
> > > > forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert??
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Wigle
> > > > CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep......
> > > >
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> > > Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues,
> > > both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia.  They pointed
> > > out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the
> > > telephone lines.
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> > >  - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000
>
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> Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues,
> both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia.  They pointed
> out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the
> telephone lines.
>
>  - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000

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