The only cert
that means a thing in my opinion is the CCIE lab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No offense, but that is absolutely ridiculous!
Many people here have worked very hard and studied very hard for their
CCNPs!  You should not insult them by telling them that all their efforts,
"don't mean a thing"!

They damn sure do!!!!
The ultimate in education is a PHD, but that doesn't mean that a masters,
"Don't mean a thing"  !!!


-----Original Message-----
From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lori S Carter'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
'Bradley J. Wilson'
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


Everyone that uses ANY kind of testing software is assuredly part of
violating the NDA.  Those people that create those tests do it every day and
then we use their material to study.  Where do you think they come up with
the questions that are exact or damn near the real test?  So, unless you
don't use testing software your just as guilty as the guy everyone is
whining about.  Besides, certifications don't mean squat if you can't back
it up.  I've seen plenty of CCNP's that don't know sh!t and they didn't
violate the NDA.  Written tests are all cheap if you ask me.  The only cert
that means a thing in my opinion is the CCIE lab.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: Louie Belt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'John Kaberna' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Lori S Carter'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bradley J. Wilson'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...


> John, the reason we despise those who violate the NDA is that they cheapen
> the Cisco certifications for all of those who worked, studied and followed
> the rules to get their certifications.  Why would we let someone lessen
the
> value of what we have achieved?  We do not want Cisco's certifications to
> become worthless and everyone who violates the NDA, cheapens the value of
> our work and effort. Is that your goal?
>
>
>
> Louie
>
> "Thinking is man's only basic virtue, from which all others proceed. And
his
> basic vice, the source of all his evils, is that nameless act which all of
> you practice, but struggle never to admit... the refusal to think; not
> blindness, but the refusal to see; not ignorance, but the refusal to
know."
> - John Galt
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Kaberna
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:18 PM
> To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to
Router
> B.
> > >A
> > >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
> an
> > >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> > >>
> > >> Question 2:
> > >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> > >network
> > >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged.
Where
> are
> > >> the packets retransmitted from?
> > >>
> > >> Question 3:
> > >> Computer1 --------[Segment
> > >>
> >
>
>A]-------RouterA--------------RouterB----------[SegmentB]--------------Comp
> u
> > >> ter2
> > >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> > >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
> source
> > >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> > >>
> > >> Question 4:
> > >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
> will
> > >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
> source
> > >and
> > >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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