John, I know exactly what the CCIE lab is. I sit for it in RTP October 30th
and 31st. I also know how hard I've worked to get to this point and I don't
want anyone devaluing my efforts. You seem to think it's ok to cheat or
violate NDA's. You missed the idea entirely of my post - that it won't
create more CCIE's, but that cheating on the written will allow more
"non-qualified" people to sit for the lab, thereby creating an even greater
backlog (currently at 4 months) of people waiting to get in. It does not in
any way mean that more will pass, but it does mean that someone who is
qualified may have to wait even longer, because someone who doesn't deserve
a shat at the lab cheated their way ahead of those who put in the effort.
As for John Galt, it's simply a tag line that goes with my sig. Who is John
Galt? - is a rhetorical question from a book and was never intended to
elicit an answer.
Louie
When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; If
I am right, he will learn, If I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but
both of us will profit.
- John Galt
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Kaberna
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:53 PM
To: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
No one is going to pass just because of a few questions they can memorize
the answers to. I also don't know where you think we will be diluted with
CCIE's because of this. The CCIE is a lab. I guess your referring to the
paper test which, once again, doesn't mean squat.
The pool is not going to be diluted because of NDA violations. Just like
any other certification the combination of books geared directly for the
exam and testing software that is very accurate will dilute the pool. The
few people that violate the NDA will be of little consequence. As long as
Cisco uses a large enough question database and changes the test frequently
enough this won't be an issue. You people love to beat a dead horse don't
you.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Kaberna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lori S Carter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> John,
> Perhaps you have not grasped the idea that systematic violation of the
NDAs
> devalues the certs that we are all (yourself included - I assume) working
to
> earn. I for one, do not want the pool of CCNPs and CCIEs diluted by those
> who are incapable of passing the exams without memorizing the answers to a
> few specific questions. A significant part of the value of these certs
> comes from the perception (justified or not) that more than memorization
is
> required to attain them.
> Regards,
>
> Nathan Miller
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:18 PM
> To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> You people spend way too much time snitching. I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school. Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them. Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS. You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> > Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one? I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to
Router
> B.
> > >A
> > >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
> an
> > >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> > >>
> > >> Question 2:
> > >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> > >network
> > >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged.
Where
> are
> > >> the packets retransmitted from?
> > >>
> > >> Question 3:
> > >> Computer1 --------[Segment
> > >>
> >
>
>A]-------RouterA--------------RouterB----------[SegmentB]--------------Comp
> u
> > >> ter2
> > >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> > >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
> source
> > >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> > >>
> > >> Question 4:
> > >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
> will
> > >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
> source
> > >and
> > >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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