If you're going to slam, clean up your English. -----Original Message----- From: Manishkumar Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Choices??]--Stupid Thought..NOT CISCO TOPIC Only stupid/Narrow minded can think this who has DOUBT OF SERVIVAL. Good Luck DSilva, CRYPTO BYTE I pray to God to help you guys. Regards MK CCNA 2.0, MCSE, CNE, CNI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > / > I agree and disagree with you Ken. > Yes its the choices people make, ie, high-tech careers vs driving a truck. > However its the big money corporations that want to keep salaries down that > lobby to bring in H-1Bs. > > HOWEVER hope is not gone. > > XEROX has said it will not and does not hire any H-1Bs. They believe that > American companies should be hiring, and training if necessary, Americans. > > Hopefully this will spread. > \ > > > > Quoting Kenneth Lorenzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I think it's your own career choices/skills that put you where you're at > > and > > not because some guy from some other country took your job. > > > > "Crypto Byte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > To whom it may concern [namely you]: > > > > > > I personally don't have anything against these people [who ever the hell > > > they are] other than the fact they are ruining my life and the lives of > > > others, destroying my family, undermining the premise and foundation of > > > our [and other] career field[s], effecting the economic base of our > > > country [USA]; and, in general, starting to piss me off. > > > > > > Assuming you are not a H1-B, how do we stem the tide? > > > > > > If you are a H1-B, because you are ruining my life and the lives of > > > others, destroying my family, undermining the premise and foundation of > > > our [and other] career field[s], effecting the economic base of our > > > country [USA], please give me one non parasitic reason I should not feel > > > this way! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > > > Hiring Foreign Tech Workers: In granting visas, Congress bowed to high-tech > > moneyHiring Foreign Tech Workers: In granting visas, Congress bowed to > > high-tech money > > greenspun.com : LUSENET : Grassroots Information Coordination Center (GICC) > > : One Thread > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > Why do we keep electing these people? They obviously no longer represent > > the interests of the American voter. > > http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/09/27/text/p10s1.html > > > > Hiring Foreign Tech Workers > > > > In granting visas, Congress bowed to high-tech money > > > > The booming American high-tech industry, eager to fill jobs with workers > > it apparently cannot seem to find within US borders, will have its wishes > > granted again on Capitol Hill this week. > > > > Congress is finishing up a bill that will grant H1-B visas to some > > 200,000 > > high-tech workers from overseas for the next three years. That's in > > addition > > to the existing half-million such workers already in the country. President > > Clinton apparently has given his support to the measure. > > > > Such generosity to one industry - albeit one driving the economy - is > > thanks largely to its increasing political clout. The industry gives > > campaign contributions to Democrats and Republicans in roughly equal > > amounts. The total will exceed $22 million this year, more than double the > > $8.9 million of four years ago. > > > > Also, Congress seems to have given up on the idea that low-tech American > > workers can quickly be taught how to make computer chips, write software, > > and perform other high-tech tasks. > > > > There are problems here. First, the bill is typical of the piecemeal > > approach to the larger issue of controls on immigration, both legal and > > illegal. > > > > Second, the quick passage of an H1-B bill in a crowded congressional > > calendar is being done without providing resources to retrain American > > workers or to encourage and recruit students into science and engineering. > > > > Critics were ignored in their charge that high-tech firms are not lacking > > for r�sum�s, but may only be short of younger workers willing to work for > > less money and longer hours. > > > > Any evidence to that effect was overridden by the assumption that the US > > companies need more foreign, low-wage workers to remain globally > > competitive. Congress also worried that many of the firms might just flee > > to > > low-wage countries. > > > > The industry claims it needs workers from India, China, and elsewhere who > > now earn up to 15 times less at similar high-tech jobs in their native > > countries. It also foresees a vacancy of 850,000 jobs in the years ahead. > > > > > > Issues outstanding > > > > Some politicians tried to further tangle up the HB-1 legislation by > > asking > > to bring up other immigration causes. > > > > A few Democrats wanted to appease Hispanics who claim there is a > > double-standard in granting visas to high-tech workers while denying them > > to > > illegal immigrants already in the US. > > > > Some on the GOP side, meanwhile, wanted to make sure H1-B foreign > > professionals didn't directly take jobs away from American workers or force > > a lowering of salaries. > > > > One big issue the bill neglects is how to provide additional government > > services to this massive wave of high-tech immigrants. > > > > Nor does it beef up government monitoring of these "temporary" workers - > > many of whom will likely find a way to stay illegally in the US after their > > visas expire. > > > > It's disappointing that the bill has no sensible safeguards to protect > > American workers, such as a requirement that the companies pay a minimum of > > $40,000 a year to the foreign workers. > > > > And it's disappointing, too, that the Clinton administration, which often > > claims to be on the side of the American worker, has not seen fit to put > > modest regulations into effect that went along with the first passage of > > H1-B visas six years ago. One necessary rule is that high-tech firms make a > > good-faith effort to advertise for US workers before they hire from abroad. > > > > > > A few recommendations > > > > A recent report on the H1-B issue by the General Accounting Office calls > > government efforts to date in question. The GAO says the H1-B program is > > open to abuse by companies for two reasons: (1) the Labor Department has > > limited legal authority to enforce the program and (2) weaknesses in > > enforcement by the Immigration and Naturalization Service. > > > > The report goes on to offer worthy recommendations. They include: > > > > � That many companies in California's Silicon Valley be encouraged to > > move > > elsewhere in order to find more and less expensive workers. (Salaries in > > that high-tech corridor need to be three times the national average to keep > > up with housing prices.) > > > > � An income-tax credit that encourages employment in high-tech fields. > > > > As the world continues its march toward a global economy, a freer > > exchange > > of workers among countries is required. > > > > But let's hope the H1-B visa issue can be framed in a large scope of > > other > > immigration issues and a proper reeducation of American workers. > > > > > > > > -- K ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), September 28, 2000 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through Atlantic.Net Webmail: http://webmail.atlantic.net/ > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. 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RE: [Choices??]--Stupid Thought..NOT CISCO TOPIC
Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:07:44 -0700
- RE: [Choices??]--Stupid Thought..NOT ... Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
