How about just permitting established connections. That should do it, only
allowing responses to you requests


At 12:16 AM 10/03/2000 -0400, Dorroh, Hunter wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>I searched through the archives and found lots of good information on
>blocking but I did not see anything on the possibility of allowing users to
>connect to Napster and download music but NOT be permitted to upload.  Any
>thoughts on how to allow this to happen via PIX or IOS FW?  I was thinking
>this might limit a company's legal exposure.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Hunter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Trevor Corness, CCNA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 3:49 PM
>To: Hal White; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Napster Question
>
>
>The list went through this several times already.
>
>Blocking ports 4444, 5555, 6666, 7777 is useless.. since Beta6, Napster has
>been able to work on ANY port, INCLUDING 80.. so to kill Napster, you would
>have to kill all access to http/tcp80.. NOT good.  Blocking the IPs is the
>best and most thorough solution at this time.
>
>Also, besides blocking the access to the main Napster sites will block most
>users, and for those that go around it, there should be a user policy in
>place.  It is not totally your job to govern what the users do and do not
>do.. the users should also be held responsible.  Put a political policy in
>place, and if it is broken by a user by using something such as opennap,
>discipline from management will solve this issue.
>
> Regards,
>  Trevor Corness, CCNA MCSE MCP+I
>  Network Systems Engineer, DataCom
>  BMS Communications Ltd.
>  http://www.bmscom.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Hal White
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:55 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Napster Question
>
>
>Blocking these IP addresses will only block users from accessing the main
>napster servers and will not block access to other napster servers, such as,
>opennap, which can be found easily by using the napigator program.  The best
>way to block Napster is to block the ports that the client uses which are
>4444,5555,6666,7777.  Don't quote me on these ports because I can't find my
>documentation at the moment, but I think they are right.
>
>
>Hal
>
>>From: "Fowler, Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Fowler, Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: Napster Question
>>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:15:19 -0400
>>
>>If you search the archives it has some info on this, but I just implemented
>>it this morning and it seems to working here. If you are using PIX firewall
>>(or any other) create an access list using the outbound and apply commands
>>to block the following addresses:
>>
>>208.184.216.0 /24
>>208.178.167.0 /24
>>208.178.163.61
>>208.184.175.130
>>208.184.175.131
>>208.184.175.132
>>208.184.175.134
>>208.49.239.242
>>208.49.239.247
>>208.49.239.248
>>
>>People will start wandering by your desk asking if you've ever heard a
>>program called Napster. I personally like to dumb.
>>
>>Joey
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tom Pruneau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:29 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Napster Question
>>
>>
>>Greetings Group
>>
>>Does anyone know what ports Napster usies for handshaking?
>>Inbound, outbound port number?
>>What would it take to block Napster?
>>
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tom Pruneau
>>Trainer Network Operations
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