It is Expert. Engineer is used in MCSE and the CNE certifications. In all
reality the CCIE should be Engineer as the magnitude of difficulty compared
to MCSE or CNE is enormous in comparision.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Paul Borghese
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:22 PM
To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco
Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
I thought CCIE stood for Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert. I believe
Engineer has legal ramifications. I am sure you can ask for his number then
check with Cisco. There has to be some verification system.
Paul Borghese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him a god. Lets
face
> it guys, there is nobody out there that knows everything about everything,
> and if there is someone that thinks they do, I guarantee there is someone
> else out there that knows more than they do. Obviously if this guy is
lying
> about his CCIE he should be exposed, and after reported it is up to Cisco
to
> deal with as they see fit.
>
> .02
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sam LI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mark Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
> Well, even some real one behave like this, i come across a few in the the
> past
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM
> Subject: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
> > Greetings-
> >
> >
> > I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a CCIE.
He
> > even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it. At least I think it is
the
> > CCIE logo. It is a router symbol surrounded with laurels and has the
words
> > Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer circling it as well. After asking
> this
> > person a few questions, I became suspicious of his credentials due to
his
> > apparent lack of knowledge of the fundamentals. (I never asked for his
> CCIE
> > number because I attempted verification only after I left the account).
I
> > faxed a copy of the business card he gave me (homemade BTW) to someone
in
> > the CCIE program at Cisco. She told me the card is bogus and that she
> would
> > send the card to the Cisco lawyers. That was three months ago and this
> > person is STILL working on site there. What do you people think I should
> do
> > now? Send e-mail to the persons that are contracting him there? He is
> > charging a very high bill rate. The people he is working don't have
enough
> > knowledge to confirm his credentials. Should I let this go? Isn't part
of
> my
> > cert agreement with Cisco to protect the logo? I feel that Cisco isn't
> doing
> > anything to protect us here.
> >
> > Mark Cohen
> > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> >
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