Well, I must admit that when I was a God in the NOS world (past tense -
well, doing more Cisco work than NOS nowadays....) the small fundamentals
might sometimes get forgot if you don't use them anymore.
I remember getting questions wrong on an exam that had to do with a user
menu. I used the constituent parts of the menu program directly and I
couldn't remember what the user menu looked like let alone what options were
on them..... but I got the work done just as well and faster.
I'm not sure what your involvement in the suspect's hiring was but it is
accepted practice to get the CCIE#.
I don't know if I'd make any noises until I had that. If he is fake and
provides a number then he is definitely in trouble.
He could be an "expired" CCIE, which really is not a CCIE - 314 were knocked
off the rolls lately, which means he would still be in trouble if the
position required a "current" CCIE.
In any event - ratting him out "after the fact" wouldn't look professional
in my opinion, especially since you have left the account. The necessary
action is for management. If he is performing to their expectations it
would be difficult for you to say anything unless you can prove the fraud.
If you can prove the fraud, turn him in. If not, it's not your place and it
could hurt you in the end.
Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP.............
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him a god. Lets
face
> it guys, there is nobody out there that knows everything about everything,
> and if there is someone that thinks they do, I guarantee there is someone
> else out there that knows more than they do. Obviously if this guy is
lying
> about his CCIE he should be exposed, and after reported it is up to Cisco
to
> deal with as they see fit.
>
> .02
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sam LI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mark Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
> Well, even some real one behave like this, i come across a few in the the
> past
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM
> Subject: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
> > Greetings-
> >
> >
> > I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a CCIE.
He
> > even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it. At least I think it is
the
> > CCIE logo. It is a router symbol surrounded with laurels and has the
words
> > Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer circling it as well. After asking
> this
> > person a few questions, I became suspicious of his credentials due to
his
> > apparent lack of knowledge of the fundamentals. (I never asked for his
> CCIE
> > number because I attempted verification only after I left the account).
I
> > faxed a copy of the business card he gave me (homemade BTW) to someone
in
> > the CCIE program at Cisco. She told me the card is bogus and that she
> would
> > send the card to the Cisco lawyers. That was three months ago and this
> > person is STILL working on site there. What do you people think I should
> do
> > now? Send e-mail to the persons that are contracting him there? He is
> > charging a very high bill rate. The people he is working don't have
enough
> > knowledge to confirm his credentials. Should I let this go? Isn't part
of
> my
> > cert agreement with Cisco to protect the logo? I feel that Cisco isn't
> doing
> > anything to protect us here.
> >
> > Mark Cohen
> > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> >
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