Gee... must have been a really bad day huh? Can't say I disagree with
what's been said though - there's a pretty big pipeline of people waiting
for lab exam openings and from rumors heard of people getting throw out
halfway through day one - there's more than enough attempts made without any
hope of succeeding.
The part that troubles me most is those newbie CCNPs or CCIE writtens who
have no idea what they're in for next. If you ask me, having finished your
CCNP/CCDP/CCIE written is like 20% of the battle - the rest is yet to come!
It can be done - with practice, patience, practice, experience, practice,
study - and most important of all - TIME! And if you contrast it to elite
atheletes who train a couple of hours a day for a lifetime, you gotta
actually admit the CCIE is actually less demanding.
And if you needed a whole bunch of test questions and exam prep tools such
as Boson for those written tests, KIV the CCIE - you'll save yourself a lot
of grief and leave one extra spot available for someone else who stands a
decent shot at it. Each CCNP/CCDP level test should be passable by just
reading a book, and having had some hands on with Cisco equipment (say 20%
of job over 2 years in some network admin position). The CCIE written
should only need a bit of brushing up here and there after on some topics.
You can try to memorize concepts and get certified - but lack of
understanding will be a sure killer for the CCIE lab, and you'll never be
the sharpest engineer out there. For those people who are starting out and
struggling with subnetting and VLSM, networking likely isn't the line for
you. For those who've gotten past CCNP/CCDP - stop, think twice, before you
embark for the CCIE. I have a friend who started out more than two years
ago for the CCIE, he's got his CCNP, passed his CCIE written, but is holding
off the lab - he knows he's not ready. And that's not to say he's not
sharp, he's got an engineering background, is the lead Cisco tech in his
company, but he's got a girlfriend and life and time he'd rather spend doing
other stuff as well besides preparing for the lab.
Let's face it - the CCIE isn't for everyone. Unfortunately the hype has
gathered a bunch of money hungry certification crazy folks into the race.
Thankfully - it simply cannot be done without putting in the requisite
effort - you would have to work very hard at trying to cheat to pass the
CCIE lab - so hard, that its just like having worked/studied for it (hehe!).
Fortunately, for those who dig it - the CCIE can be a very in-depth
fulfilling lifetime experience - Cisco technology is full of neat surprises
and tricks, and the world just needs more and more of us.
Chuck, hang it there - it can be tough going, but someday soon. Thought for
the future - all IT certifications should be lab based... a one day CCNP
lab exam, 1/2 day CCNA lab exam - and make the MCSE a 2-day lab, that will
sure weed out the thousands of paper MSCEs!
Regards,
Adrian
""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> WARNING: The following is a bit heated.
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> YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP THIS ONE
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> OK. Steam coming out of ears. I've been trying to avoid comment on a
number
> of these kinds of questions, but this does it.
>
> IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE F*****ING WORK, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU
DESERVE
> TO BECOME A F*******ING CCIE???????????
>
> The certification is Cisco Certified Internetworking EXPERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> It is NOT Cisco Certified Internetworking SLACKER!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> THERE ARE NOT SHORTCUTS!!!!!!!! DO THE DAMN WORK, OR GIVE IT UP!!!!!!!!
>
> Sorry, but there are far too many unqualified people clogging the
pipelines,
> for training classes and for the Lab itself. The certification is hard to
> achieve for a reason. GET IT??????
>
> My apologies for losing my temper, but I am getting pretty tired of
spending
> all my spare moments in certification related activities while at the same
> time seeing this kind of stuff coming across all the Cisco lists.
>
> RANT AND RAVE
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Hubert Pun
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:24 PM
> To: Cisco Study Group
> Subject: Lab exam
>
> Any one know what to expect on the lab exam?
> for example, out of 100 points
> how many points are BGP?
> how many points are SNA or DLSw?
> how many points are IPX?
> how many points are OSPF? (is it still 20?)
> how many points are Catalyst?
> what equipment to expect? (according to the website below, there will
> only be 2500, 3600, 4000 and Cat 5k)
> how many points are ATM?
>
>
> I have taken a look into http://www.ccbootcamp.com/ccielab.htm and I am
> not sure how update the info is.
>
> Where else can I find the mark distribution for the lab? (i know that
> the Cisco blue print does not really have the mark distribution)
>
> Thanks
>
>
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