Hey Kevin,
                    At my job we recently implemented VoIP within the
existing network infrastructure and I must admit that it seems to run
flawlessly.  It's been running so well I can't remember the exact IOS image
on the 3640 used to tie into the Lucent G3 PBX switch.  What we did was
basically rebuilt all of our DHCP zones and built a default zone and binded
it to the tftp service on the gateway(MCS 7835) so the IP phones could
download their configuration.  Now every segment on our lan that is tied
into the VoIP through our existing various 4006 boxes.  When I get in
tomorrow I'll look into it and see what version of the IOS is on that
router.

Apart from that I got into a discussion with some "Foundry" folks over the
recent lack of Quality Assurance(QA) provided by cisco lately.  I remember a
time when you got products from cisco and it plugged and played.  Most
recently we've been receiving items that are defective.  Not to mention that
in the last month alone we've changed IOS images on our backbone numerous
times due to various bugs in the IOS code.  At one time we even worked with
cisco's crash recovery and router teams to eliminate problems we had
identified in the IOS images we used.  So, Kevin as you can see this is
widely spread and not just IOS problem related to Voice and AVVID...

That Foundry stuff sure is fast.....   I'm compiling some stats on the
BigIrons and ServerIrons
 we just installed.. I'll post them in a couple of days..

Nigel..

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Wigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:35 AM
Subject: Voice on the Network


> Dear Group,
>
> I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various
organizations.
>
> For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the
> backbone.
>
> For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T"
version
> of the IOS is GD.
>
> When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight
into
> when a "T" series IOS will be GD.
>
> So, what do you guys think?  On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al -
but
> on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to
those
> of us who like the feel of GD.
>
> Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..........)
>
> Kevin Wigle
>
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