Being at the point in my studies where pure terror is setting in, I would
say that one very important component of preparation is the actual
configuration and troubleshooting on real routers, configuring "real"
scenarios. The books aren't helpful here. The thought process is very
important. Seeing the results of operations via the show and debug commands,
and understanding what those outputs are saying, is every bit as critical as
understanding how to configure OSPF over a frame relay multipoint interface.
Understanding the implications of your choices is every bit as important as
getting a network to router packets so you can ping interfaces.
I find the biggest problem I am facing is the changing of the mindset. In my
job, I design networks for customers. It is straightforward and practical
work. I would never create a design like some of the things I am seeing in
the practice labs. This is the mindset that I think must be changed. Like a
chess master, a CCIE must always be thinking 10 moves ahead. This kind of
mindset comes only from extensive hands on. I agree that it is not
necessarily OTJ that creates the mindset. I agree that extensive practice
with scenarios from fatkid or ccbootcamp of Mentor Vlabs can provide that
training.
Check out www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.htm for good preparation advice from
successful CCIE's , including that of the author below, whose advice I have
always found worth considering.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Peter Van Oene
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need your opinion
I have to slightly disagree. CCIE is a test, pure and simple. It actually
doesn't relate much at all to real world experience. When would you rush
like a maniac to build a superfluously complex network in 12 hours with only
limited guidelines and then have it maliciously tampered with while you eat
lunch only to come back and fix it in 4 hours? CCIE is all about knowing
the intricacies of protocols and Cisco's implementation of them and being
able to efficiently configure and troubleshoot them under immense pressure
(mostly from not wanting to come back and do it again).
What Henry is missing is pure hands on router time. You simply have to
practise your configuration routine for the basics over and over until you
do it in your sleep. (this is true actually, you'll know your ready when
you dream about IOS and have nightmares about routes missing from your table
when everything looks right in the config) Rack time at ccbootcamp or
similar might fill in the blanks here.
Pete
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On 1/10/2001 at 11:53 AM Robert Nelson-Cox wrote:
>>From: Henry D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Henry D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Need your opinion
>>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:28:47 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper)
>>CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real
>>world experience. I have limited experience in frame
>>relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related
>>courses (OSPF & BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation
>>training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one
>>week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what
>>do you think of my chance to become CCIE ?
>
>You'll probably fly the written part, then get shot down in flames during
>the lab.
>
>The CCIE is about real-life experience, and you can't do the lab without
it.
>
>>Thank's for any input.
>
>Anytime
>
>Rob./
>
>>
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