Hello all,

I've heard expert, meaning knowlegable and very experienced, CCIEs say
*exactly* the same thing about other CCIEs after interviews... i.e., "don't
understand or can't explain basic concepts."  These people aren't morons,
some folks just have different goals and views concerning their CCIE and
networking carrers.

I'd say that it's all very relative, some people have a passion for what
they do and others don't.  Being that I just went through the entire 2.0
CCNP track, I do agree that it was easier than I expected and the assessment
that this "easement" is "sales driven," is probably very accurate.

Nonetheless, I still hold a certain amount of respect for anyone
successfully passing the CCIE certification - it's just not easy!  I believe
that Cisco will soon "soften" the CCIE track as well - this is already
becoming evident in the multi-rating CCIE system.

my pennies

----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Columbus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!


> I haven't taken any of the 2.0 exams, but those I've spoken to who've
taken
> 1.0 and 2.0 concur with your assessment.  Why did Cisco "dumb-down" the
> tests?  Probably because they're trying to find that delicate balance
> between having enough certified people in the field to help sell their
> products and making the tests just difficult enough to ensure that the
> certified people aren't complete morons.  Remember, Cisco isn't creating
> certifications to help our careers...they're creating the certifications
to
> drive their product placement in the marketplace.  If it's hard to find
> someone "certified" to maintain the equipment, a customer isn't as likely
> to buy the product.  Personally, I'd love to see Cisco make the exams much
> more difficult, but I can't see that it will ever happen.
> The new CCNP track has made my job more difficult.  I can no longer take
> the CCNP cert to mean that the candidate actually knows anything about
> networking.  Therefore, all my candidates now get a comprehensive tech
> interview.  You'd be surprised the number of CCNPs that can't explain
basic
> subnetting or the differences between distance-vector and link-state
protocols.
>
> Craig
>
> At 04:55 AM 1/13/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a
> >space of 6 weeks.
> >
> >I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped
> >considerably.  I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to
> >abandon it due to the expiry date.  ACRC was a good standard exam.  That
was
> >the true level of testing!  The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams
was
> >79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%.
> >
> >I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without
> >ANY prior Cisco experience.  I feel the passing score should be increased
to
> >79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market
and
> >decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams.
> >
> >I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional
> >Certifications.
> >
> >Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon?
> >
> >Regards.
> >Ashfaq
> >
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