The dozen or so I've had contact with were sharp as they come. Half were
with Cisco, the other half with other firms we've sub-contracted with.
I will say, as some have, that having "the number" can make some of these
folks very arrogant, but I run into that enough I doesn't bother me, I'm
just here to get the job done. If I need to, I find the documentation I
need to go up the chain of command and get things done, but I've never had
such a run-in with a CCIE. Although, many of these CCIE's have been very
friendly and helpful.
--
Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
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"Craig Columbus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Not so sure about the CCIE track. I've heard that Cisco intends to keep
it
> at a different level from the other tracks.
> BTW, I've never met a CCIE who didn't know his stuff. Is there such a
> creature?
>
> Craig
>
> At 08:22 AM 1/14/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I've heard expert, meaning knowlegable and very experienced, CCIEs say
> >*exactly* the same thing about other CCIEs after interviews... i.e.,
"don't
> >understand or can't explain basic concepts." These people aren't morons,
> >some folks just have different goals and views concerning their CCIE and
> >networking carrers.
> >
> >I'd say that it's all very relative, some people have a passion for what
> >they do and others don't. Being that I just went through the entire 2.0
> >CCNP track, I do agree that it was easier than I expected and the
assessment
> >that this "easement" is "sales driven," is probably very accurate.
> >
> >Nonetheless, I still hold a certain amount of respect for anyone
> >successfully passing the CCIE certification - it's just not easy! I
believe
> >that Cisco will soon "soften" the CCIE track as well - this is already
> >becoming evident in the multi-rating CCIE system.
> >
> >my pennies
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Craig Columbus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:47 AM
> >Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!
> >
> >
> > > I haven't taken any of the 2.0 exams, but those I've spoken to who've
> >taken
> > > 1.0 and 2.0 concur with your assessment. Why did Cisco "dumb-down"
the
> > > tests? Probably because they're trying to find that delicate balance
> > > between having enough certified people in the field to help sell their
> > > products and making the tests just difficult enough to ensure that the
> > > certified people aren't complete morons. Remember, Cisco isn't
creating
> > > certifications to help our careers...they're creating the
certifications
> >to
> > > drive their product placement in the marketplace. If it's hard to
find
> > > someone "certified" to maintain the equipment, a customer isn't as
likely
> > > to buy the product. Personally, I'd love to see Cisco make the exams
much
> > > more difficult, but I can't see that it will ever happen.
> > > The new CCNP track has made my job more difficult. I can no longer
take
> > > the CCNP cert to mean that the candidate actually knows anything about
> > > networking. Therefore, all my candidates now get a comprehensive tech
> > > interview. You'd be surprised the number of CCNPs that can't explain
> >basic
> > > subnetting or the differences between distance-vector and link-state
> >protocols.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > At 04:55 AM 1/13/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >Hi there,
> > > >
> > > >I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%)
within a
> > > >space of 6 weeks.
> > > >
> > > >I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped
> > > >considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to
> > > >abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam.
That
> >was
> > > >the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0
exams
> >was
> > > >79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%.
> > > >
> > > >I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks
without
> > > >ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be
increased
> >to
> > > >79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the
market
> >and
> > > >decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams.
> > > >
> > > >I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional
> > > >Certifications.
> > > >
> > > >Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon?
> > > >
> > > >Regards.
> > > >Ashfaq
> > > >
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