Have an issue, hope many of you don't feel this is too off topic.  Many of =
you have helped me in the past with certification questions, perhaps you =
can assist with this one as well.

I am trying to establish a connection to the City of Greenville's network. =
 What should be a simple connection is giving me fits.

I'm currently using 2 Cisco 1601 routers, routing RIPv2.  From my network =
to the city's, I pass through a total of 5 routers (2 our mine, 3 belong =
to the city).  Currently I can communicate with each router and vice versa =
via Telnet or ping.  However, the city of Greenville's network has the =
following IP address 10.128.0.0/12 (or 255.240.0.0).  The interface =
attached to the city of Greenville's network is 10.130.0.1/12.  Everything =
within this network has  3'd octet of zero. =20

Originally, from his network he could not ping us, however I could ping =
him (him being the net admin using a PC with an address of 10.130.0.24/12).=
  I added a default route on one of my Cisco's pointing back to his =
network and that problem went away.  Now I'm trying to add an ACL on our =
router blocking all but Telnet traffic coming from a host on his network =
to a host within our network.  In testing I can get the ACL's to work for =
every system except one on the 10.128.0.0 subnet.  By work I mean on the =
networks in between my network and the city's I can setup ICMP or Telnet =
ACL's permitting traffic and they can get in.  This was done for testing =
purposes only.  My goal is to lock everyone out but the host w/ an IP =
address of 10.130.0.24/12.

I believe that the problem lies with the zero being used as a third octet =
.  However I've seen Cisco documentation using zero's as host addresses.  =
I'm a bit confused for I've found plenty of documentation stating that =
zero's in the network/subnet address aren't recommended, however I can =
find nothing stating zero's in the "host" portion aren't recommended.

Any ideas?  Has anyone come across a problem like this before?

Simple answer would be to tell the city of Greenville to remove the zero =
in the third octet and replace it with a one or higher.  The answer from =
them is that it would be too much trouble.  This is their default gateway =
for over 450 machines.  So I'm looking for help to see if there's anything =
else I can try.

Thanks for any and all advice,
rtw

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<DIV><FONT size=1>Have an issue, hope many of you don't feel this is too off 
topic.&nbsp; Many of you have helped me in the past with certification 
questions, perhaps you can assist with this one as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1>I am trying to establish a connection to the City of 
Greenville's network.&nbsp; What should be a simple connection is giving me 
fits.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1>I'm currently using 2 Cisco 1601 routers, routing RIPv2.&nbsp; 
>From my network to the city's, I pass through a total of 5 routers (2 our mine, 
3 belong to the city).&nbsp; Currently I can communicate with each router and 
vice versa via Telnet or ping.&nbsp; However, the&nbsp;city of 
Greenville's&nbsp;network has the following IP address 10.128.0.0/12 (or 
255.240.0.0).&nbsp; The interface attached to the city of Greenville's network 
is 10.130.0.1/12.&nbsp; Everything within this network has&nbsp; 3'd octet of 
zero.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1>Originally, from&nbsp;his network he could not ping us, 
however I could ping him (him being&nbsp;the net admin using a&nbsp;PC with an 
address of 10.130.0.24/12).&nbsp; I added a default route on one of my Cisco's 
pointing back to his network and that problem went away.&nbsp; Now I'm trying to 
add an ACL on our router blocking all but Telnet traffic coming from a host on 
his network to a host within our network.&nbsp; In testing I can get the ACL's 
to work for every system except one on the 10.128.0.0 subnet.&nbsp; By work I 
mean on the networks in between my network and the city's I can setup ICMP or 
Telnet ACL's permitting traffic and they can get in.&nbsp; This was done for 
testing purposes only.&nbsp; My goal is to lock everyone out but the host w/ an 
IP address of 10.130.0.24/12.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1>I believe that the problem lies with the zero being used as 
a&nbsp;third octet&nbsp;.&nbsp; However I've seen Cisco documentation using 
zero's as host addresses.&nbsp; I'm a bit confused for I've found plenty of 
documentation stating that zero's in the network/subnet address aren't 
recommended, however I can find nothing stating zero's in the "host" portion 
aren't recommended.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1>Any ideas?&nbsp; Has anyone come across a problem like this 
before?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1>Simple answer would be to tell the city of Greenville to 
remove the zero in the third octet and replace it with a&nbsp;one or 
higher.&nbsp; The answer from them is that it would be too much trouble.&nbsp; 
This is their default gateway for over 450 machines.&nbsp; So I'm looking for 
help to see if there's anything else I can try.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1>Thanks for any and all advice,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>rtw</DIV>
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