Joey,
I am really glad this message is out there, because I was going to write one 
confirming my findings with the group. I believe on one part you are wrong 
in your explaination. I have read and read and the big question is:

What the heck is the difference between NMBA and point-to-multipoint?

You said there are 3 network types well, actually there are 4 types.
point-to-point
point-to-multipoint
broadcast
NBMA

So what is the difference? I conclude the difference is how you want 
adjacencies created.
As you noted Ethernet is a good example of Broadcast. ~I agree
You note a good example of NMBA is Frame-Relay. ~I don't fully agree 
Frame-relay could be a point-to-point connection, but never a Broadcast 
(same with ATM, and X.25)since it is not possible to broadcast on these link 
technologies.
Point-to-point is fairly easy to figure out. Two routers connected only to 
each other.
Point-to-multipoint is a router with more than one connection off of an 
interface. This is also the definition of a NBMA, the difference is in 
point-to-multipoint treats each link as a point-to-point link and no DR/BDR 
is elected and adjacencies are created just like point-to-point links. On a 
NBMA network DR/BDR is elected and when routing information is sent to and 
from the DR/BDR with unicast packets.
I conclude the difference is administratively decided and should be based 
upon the way you want adjacencies built, and if you would benefit by this 
decrease in overhead.

>>>Brian

>From: "Fowler, Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Fowler, Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: DR Election
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:44:40 -0500
>
>There are three main types on environments (I hope)
>
>Broadcast
>Point-to-Point
>NBMA (Non-Broadcast Multi-Access)
>
>Point to Point would not be a multi-access segment. The other two would. An
>Example of Broadcast is Ethernet, while an example of NBMA would be
>Frame-Relay. Following this logic ' DR and BDR concepts ' would not have to
>be broadcast, only multi-access. Point to point creates an adjacency 
>instead
>of using DR's and BDR's.
>
>I hope the diagram below turns out, but the first one is point to point, so
>information is exchanged directly, however in a multi-access environment
>both other routers only exchange information with the DR so as not to have
>to have an adjacency with every single router.
>
>X-------X
>
>   ----O
>X-|
>   ----O
>
>If OSPF worked that way and you had 10 routers connected via Ethernet, each
>would each have to exchange information with the other 9. That would create
>45 adjacency's. Way to much traffic would have to exchanged. With those 
>same
>10 Routers using OSPF DR and BDR concepts, you could have 1 Router with 10
>"Adjacency's" total. Much less routing traffic. I hope I haven't muddled
>things to much.
>
>Joey
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pinoal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:58 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: DR Election
>
>
>
>
>Hi ,
>
>From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi
>
>' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '
>
>My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
>segment" ?
>
>Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , any
>others??????????
>
>What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?
>
>thanks
>
>
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