If Cisco's web site were down, such that nobody could access it, you would 
probably be better off going to CNN.COM to find out why rather than 
GROUPSTUDY.COM.

Cisco's site being totally inaccessible would be a significant news event, 
given the nature of the site and the efforts that Cisco has made to make the 
service fault tolerant.

If you can't get to a web site of a major vendor, the problem is probably 
yours (unless the vendor is Microsoft - but there again, CNN.COM...). Start 
with ping, traceroute, nslookup, maybe a sniffer, examine your access-lists 
or firewall rules for recent changes, etc.

One "is it down" and 2 dozen "works for me" messages still won't get you to 
the site... When troubleshooting any problem, it is a good idea to try the 
easy things first. It is not a good idea, however, to do the lazy things 
first (or ever).

Z


>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Bradley J. Wilson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        cisco  
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Cisco
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:41:51 -0600
>
>Actually, if you suspected your ISP's DNS to be invalid, you could use
>someone else's. For example go to Network Solutions website and do a who-is
>lookup on a known site, and then copy their two name servers to your own
>setup and see if that would fix the problem.
>
>You could even do a who-is lookup on cisco.com and see that they are using
>ns1.cisco.com and ns2.cisco.com. Then do a nslookup, followed by a server
>ns1.cisco.com, followed by a cisco.com that would give you
>
>       Name            : cisco.com
>       Address : 198.133.219.25
>
>Then exit nslookup and try to ping 198.133.219.25.
>
>If that goes through okay, and your ping www.cisco.com doesn't - you know
>you have a DNS problem somewhere.
>
>Hth,
>
>Ole
>
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>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:12 PM
>To: cisco
>Subject: Re: Cisco
>
>
>One reason why someone might post such a question to a newsgroup is to help
>troubleshoot DNS problems.  If other users (like the majority of us, it
>seems) can get to the website and he (the original poster) could not, that
>might point to a problem with his ISP's DNS server being out of sync.
>
>Or it could be a problem with reachability at the IP layer, but again, he
>would have no way of knowing if it was just him who was having the problem,
>or everybody.  If the Cisco web server is down, then everyone would be
>having the same problem and there's little he can do.  If it's just him,
>then he would know that it's time to get on the phone with his ISP.
>
>Either way, such posts are valid, imo.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Howard C. Berkowitz
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Cisco
>
>
> >Hi.
> >
> >Can anybody try to access cisco web site ??????
> >I think that their site is down. I am trying to access their web site 
>from
> >last 1 hour... Please check it and response me as soon as possible.
> >
> >Tazad
>
>
>Why do you think it is down?  What do your pings and traceroutes show?
>
>How would the information that I can or cannot reach it be helpful to
>you?  If you've done enough troubleshooting to think the problem is
>at your end -- and I would hope anyone on this list would do so --
>aren't you just going to keep retrying?
>
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