Info from a post on TCPMAG regarding the design CCIE tract..

The CCDP is worthwhile since the CCIE design track is taken off line. I have
the CCNP/DP certs. and have seen some, but few, contracting postings for the
DP. It is a marketing issue. Design certs. are tough to create, hence Cisco'
s problem with the design lab, it did not reflect real world conditions. How
can you properly gauge a persons design proficiency since there are many
ways to design a network and no one method is the defacto. Design topics,
approaches and methodologies are subjective so are customers design
requirements. Support certs. are easier for they are binary in nature the
fact is either true or false. Design certs. have many gray areas. If you
have or are going through the CCNP you might as well get the DP to round out
you knowledge of basic design principals. That is worth something.I agree
that this is frustrating for I too have over 16 years oh high level
networking experience and I need a cert to validate my track record. That is
the fault of loser recruiters and stupid corporate HR mangers that cannot
accurately define a set of requirements for a consultant or FTE. so, the HR
industry relies on CERTs. as a basic qualifier. i.e I need a someone for a
network support position with CCIE, CCNP, MSCE, A+ CNX, is easier to state
and rely on then actually listing what is really required and properly
interviewing the candidate.
""Mark Holloway"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Looking at Cisco's requirements for all of their CCIE tracks, it looks
like
> the CCIE Design Lab requires "the candidate to configure all of the
devices
> included in the design."
>
> So not only do you design that proposed network, you must configure it
too.
> For those of use who work in the pre-sales engineering field where the
CCDA
> and CCDP made the most sense, I think this is going a little too steep for
> CCIE Design.  I'm not opposed to learning how to configure equipment, but
> the list of equipment is literally impossible to build a home lab
(Catalyst
> 6500, 3500, 2900, PIX, Local Director, 7500, 7200, 4700, 3600, 2600, 2500,
> 7830 Call Manager, and more).  This is double the R/S Exam.  Is it really
> realistic to expect someone who designs networks (as opposed to
> administering/troubleshooting) to know all of this?  I'm assuming the
> required knowledge of this technology needs to be top-notch, like with the
> other CCIE exams.
>
> I always felt the design path was more geared toward pre-deployment and
not
> post.  Of course, some knowledge of the hands on is good, but in my job
> today I may sit with a client or a Data Engineer and go over some configs,
> but I don't maintain the equipment.
>
> Just my .02!  Opinion appreciated..
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
>
>
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