I don't like the way Cisco did this, but let's not demonize them, or 
make generalizations about the multiprovider market that really don't 
stand up.

>Cisco needs to work focus on the stability of
>their product line instead of trying to make a few bucks on lab candidates.

Cisco is a big company.  Given recent stock market conditions, I feel 
confident that a directive went out to every department, telling them 
to improve their financials.  Certification presumably came back with 
a number saying they would improve by such-and-such an amount.

I don't understand where the alleged tradeoff between improving 
stability and improving lab financials arises.  If anything, it tends 
to be more expensive to improve stability, so the money has to come 
from somewhere.

>Core routers
>are being replaced by Junipers more and more, looks like it is time 
>to get cracking on
>that JNCIE.
>
>/n

Again, while I have full respect for Juniper, it's not the either-or 
you describe.  Juniper's whole strategy is to be optimized for the 
ISP/carrier market.  Juniper products are not appropriate, say, for a 
campus core, where, say, Foundry and Extreme have lots of strength. 
While Foundry and Extreme are quite common in interprovider 
exchanges, especially in Europe, their products are not optimal as 
large WAN routers.

In this example, Juniper, Foundry, and Extreme are all effective 
niche players, which are unlikely to displace Cisco as a whole.  This 
comparison, incidentally, is in the electronic routing and switching 
area.  Were the discussion of optical transmission, you could 
substitute Nortel for Cisco, and then talk about niche players such 
as Sycamore.

>Dennis Laganiere wrote:
>
>>  I just got this, which may be of interest to some...
>>
>>  -----
>>
>>  March 1, 2001
>>
>>  Dear CCIE Candidate,
>>
>>  We are contacting you to confirm that you are currently scheduled for a
>>  CCIE lab exam and that we will soon be implementing some program
>>  changes that may have an impact upon you.
>>
>>  After a rigorous evaluation of our current cost structure, we find it
>>  necessary to increase our CCIE Lab exam fee to reflect our current cost
>>  of doing business.  The present $1,000 lab fee has been in effect since
>>  the CCIE organization was first launched in 1993. Effective on April 1,
>>  2001, we will begin charging customers $1,250 US per lab attempt, (plus
>>  any applicable local taxes).
>>
>>  Since you have already received an email confirmation from Cisco
>>  regarding the current lab fee of $1,000 US (plus any applicable taxes),
>>  we would be happy to honor that price as long as we receive payment no
>>  later than March 31, 2001.  If we receive payment from you following that
>>  date, the new lab fee will apply. If you decide to pay after April 1,
>>  2001 this email will also serve as a new confirmation.
>>
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