Wow, 13 already? That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
12.2 isn't even out yet.
>>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
Hi Everyone.
Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week. I
have
to say I was kind of disappointed. I really was wanting to spend some
good
time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
whole
day going over RIP??? I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
class!
My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
Router Rip
Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
because too
many people complained about them being too difficult??? :::sigh:::
Oh well. Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
$2000
on the CIT course now.
I will be taking my exam on April 5. I wanted to study BGP and Policy
Based
routing some more.
My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already. This
was
news to me. He said it had been out for some time. My question is,
has
anyone been using it yet? My instructor did say that they finally did
away
with my favorite command... write mem. A sad, sad day! Well, I knew
it was
coming. I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line?? :-)
Heather Buri
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Chris Haller; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there!
--- Chris Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have
> noticed
> a recent influx in people attempting and passing
> CCNP
> and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
> hundreds of people on this board ...
>
> Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this
> means
> nothing. It is good, takes a good amoumt of work
> and
> is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your
> issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's. There
> is
> no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE" If you pass the
> lab, you know your stuff .. WELL.
>
> HTH
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Adele Galus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Mike;
> >
> > I find your comment very interesting, most
> positions
> > state how
> > many years of experience before applying. The only
> > exceptions
> > that I have seen with certification positions, is
> in
> > the programing field.
> > It's not the certification being a problem - it's
> > the resources for
> > people to obtain experience.
> >
> > My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs
> for
> > people to work in when
> > studying for their certification that are
> affordable
> > or that it can be obtain.
> > People need to be involved with study groups and
> > they should do volunteer
> > work or try working as a contractor.
> >
> > This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft
> > started programs in
> > San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming
> > certified. Why did they do
> > that!!!!
> >
> > What amazes me is how these people, that you are
> > seeing, have passed the test????
> >
> > my 03 cents worth.
> >
> > respectfully,
> > adele
> >
> > Mike Davis wrote:
> >
> > > I will probably get yelled at for this one
> but...
> > >
> > > I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the
> > CCIE.
> > > So up front I am not against certs.
> > >
> > > I am becoming aware of more and more people
> > becoming
> > > Cisco certified and not know enough to go and
> > actually
> > > do the work. Our company has and is interviewing
> > for
> > > network folks, I have the opportunity to
> interview
> > > these people to verify technical experience. I
> > have
> > > had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks
> > who
> > > could not tell me what they 'should' acutally
> > know.
> > >
> > > This scares me because I am also working hard
> > toward
> > > my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven
> and
> > is
> > > showing up more that these people are becoming
> > "paper"
> > > Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
> > >
> > > I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will
> remain
> > as
> > > difficult if not more so in the future. I for
> one
> > do
> > > not want to spend a year of my life gaining the
> > CCIE
> > > title to be one among thousands who also have
> it.
> > >
> > > That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> > > try to make it more difficult to obtain the
> > CCNP/DP
> > > and not become another MCSE program.
> > >
> > >
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