At 02:18 PM 5/9/01, Greg Macaulay wrote:
>Kevin,
>
>Despite your relative youth -- did it ever occur to you that the
>Syngres/Osborne materials might be WRONG!!! Especially since Priscilla -- as
>my aging brain recalls -- was once of the authors of the versions of the
>CCDA exam. Who would know better -- the author (who was then employed by
>Cisco [I believe] -- or the publisher of IT books??
I didn't write any version of the CCDA exam. Testing design with
multiple-choice questions and oversimplified case studies wasn't my idea! ;-)
I wrote the Designing Cisco Networks Version 1.0 class. (I called it
Designing Scalable Networks, actually.) It was an HTML-based class for
internal Cisco Systems Engineers. It was simplified because the
prerequisites to becoming a Cisco SE were already really high and the class
didn't need to spell out the details. A lot of the materials were job aids
-- charts that SEs could print and carry around in their pocket protectors
-- not something that should EVER be asked in a "closed book"
multiple-choice test.
Somebody else turned my class into the certification program and it took on
a life of its own, one that makes me cringe to be honest. Kids are like that.
I thought CCDA never required CCNA but really I have no idea whether that's
right. It doesn't matter anymore.
Priscilla
>As this thread takes its last gasp of breath -- I implore you to reconsider
>whether your statement that a change indeed took place (about a year ago) or
>whether its more likely that the publisher was in error. gasp . . .gasp . .
>.gasp
>
>Greg Macaulay
>Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
>Lifetime Member of AARP
>Retired Attorney/Law Professor
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Kevin Wigle
>Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:10 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971]
>
>
>granted!
>
>This thread got started because I thought I was reporting something "new" to
>the group about certification.
>
>At one time Priscilla and the oldest NP/DP had me doubting my own memory
>about what was required to get CCDA a while back. And now CCO and "newer"
>books had me wondering also.
>
>It seems though that the change probably happened probably a year or so ago.
>
>Anyway, I'm happy ........ this thread can die anytime now (as the group
>heaps applause...)
>
>Kevin Wigle
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "William E. Gragido"
>To:
>Sent: Sunday, 06 May, 2001 21:27
>Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971]
>
>
> > I think that most people just take the exams in that order: CCNA first
>then
> > the CCDA. I know thats what I did when I took them, it didn't cross my
>mind
> > to do it in an other way.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Kevin Wigle
> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971]
> >
> >
> > Hey!
> >
> > So I'm not loosing it - I was sure that was the case!!
> >
> > I can remember answering questions on this list about what you needed to
>get
> > CCDA.
> >
> > And since Jenny has given me faith again - I have found another book:
> >
> > Global Knowledge Certification Press
> > Syngress/Osborne - CCNP, Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting 4.0
> > Copyright 1999
> > ISBN 0-07-211912-8
> >
> > which has a blurb on certification. Right there on page XXIX, table i-2
> >
> > CCDA requires CCNA 1.0 (640-407) and CDS 1.0 (9E0-004)
> >
> > yes!
> >
> > just like the scene in STNG - "how many lights"...... yes - it was 2
exams
> > not 1!!!!
> >
> >
> > ummm, sorry about that - I got my composure back now - I think.
> >
> > But just a minute......... there was this old DP/NP who was never
> > mistaken.......
> >
> > thanks Jenny!
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, 06 May, 2001 19:42
> > Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971]
> >
> >
> > > It takes me by surprise, as I have a brochure from Geotrain (dating
from
> > > about 1998 I think - yeah, I'm a bit of a packrat - I think I can throw
>it
> > > out now :-) that states that CCNA certification is a prerequisite for
> > CCDA.
> > > At the time, test requirements for the CCDA were CCNA certification and
> > CDS
> > > exam #9E0-004.
> > > CCDP required CCDA certification, ACRC, CLSC, CMTD and CID (or CCDA,
> > > foundation and CID).
> > > JMcL
> > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 07/05/2001
> > > 09:13 am ---------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > "Priscilla Oppenheimer" @groupstudy.com on 05/05/2001
> > > 04:47:53 am
> > >
> > > Please respond to "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > >
> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > cc:
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971]
> > >
> > >
> > > CCDA never required CCNA. CCDP always has and still does. That takes a
>lot
> > > of people by surprise.
> > >
> > > I may be one of the older CCDPs!? I used to tell my age in hex, but it
>has
> > > letters in it now, so it's not a joke that normal people get.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
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