Yep, I concede and your track record can be considered as unscathed!
Once Priscilla jumped in and said CCNA wasn't required I kinda knew I was
mistaken (but I still had to look into a few books!)
I just remembered that when I "boasted" passing CCNA back in 1998 (checked
the date this time) that a few guys on the list dared me to take the CCDA
without any extra studying as they thought that with "experience" it wasn't
a big leap. So I linked the two together I guess. (took the test 3 days
after CCNA and scraped by...)
I won't get into the age thing since there is a wide gap........ :-)
Kevin Wigle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Macaulay"
To: "Kevin Wigle" ;
Sent: Friday, 04 May, 2001 21:11
Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971]
> Kevin,
>
> I checked the ICRC (Cisco Press Book) and all the Sybex series for (CCNP
> 1.0) and the CCDA (Cisco Press Book) They all note that the CCNA is
required
> for the CCDP. But they also do not cite any CCNA req. for CCDA. Despite
> that, I still may be wrong -- which would be a rarity as I am a retired
> attorney/law professor and we are never wrong. Once I thought I was
wrong,
> but I was mistaken!! (Corny -- and probably not true!)
>
> As for your challenge re: my age -- I am certain that the FEderal Age
> Discrimination Laws must apply on this list!!!! However, at 56 -- I
> strongly suspect that my claim to being the oldest CCNP/DP will survive
> (What I really would have enjoyed, however, is a claim that I was the
> YOUNGEST such person -- but that passed me by during the American Civil
War
> or thereabouts!!!
>
> I do think I am older than Howard B. -- and he does not have these certs.
> Altho' the claim is a bit technical, and empty, as Howard, whom I've
> personally met -- and whose books I've read -- and messages I've
reviewed --
> is about 10,000 levels smarter than I (or any of us in this field) would
> ever hope to be!!! But still, even if he's older -- he doesn't have the
> certs -- so I can legally make the claim to my five minutes of fame!! The
> only drawback here is that one of my grandsons has passed his CCNA -- at
16
> yrs old (yipes).
>
> Anyway enuf (I always liked to spell it that way -- to spite the nuns who
> used to beat me for that) about me and my age. Let's get back to studying
> and helping each other.
>
> Regards
>
> Greg Macaulay
> Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth
> Lifetime Member of AARP
> Retired Attorney/Law Professor
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:23 PM
> To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971]
>
>
>
> Greg,
>
> to my recollection - yes, CCNA was once required to get CCDA. That's what
I
> did "in the beginning".
>
> But the easiest way to check is probably to look at the front of many of
the
> older CCxx books - they all had a chapter on certification and what was
> required.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have one here on site but I own just about all of
> them. So I'll check later unless someone else has one handy and looks.
>
> I just posted that because to me one-exam certs can't really be accepted
as
> anything more than an absolute beginning and I thought that CCNA was good
> for that. Design is generally considered a more "experienced" occupation
> and therefore to me CCDA was also ok at needing 2 exams.
>
> To me, lowering the CCDA to an one exam cert takes some of the "shine" off
> of it. Of course since I hold CCNP/CCDP the point for me is moot but back
> at the "beginning" I thought that CCDA was a "higher" cert than CCNA. Now
> they're somewhat equal. (again in my opinion)
>
> Kevin Wigle
>
> p.s. - I can't remember reading you providing any proof of "Oldest CCNP/DP
> on Earth"
>
> care to elaborate??? :-)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Macaulay
> To: Kevin Wigle ;
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:13 PM
> Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971]
>
>
> > Kevin,
> >
> > I'm not sure that you're not still sleepin' -- so to speak
> >
> > I just checked the CCDA and CCDP requirements. You are correct that the
> > CCNA is NOT a prerequisite for the CCDA (I'm too old to recall whether
the
> > CCNA WAS ONCE a requirement!!-- but I don't think so!). However, in
order
> > to obtain the CCDP designation, you must have the CCNA (not to mention
the
> > other reqs.)
> >
> > So, IMHO I don't think that a watering down has occurred.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Greg Macaulay
> > Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth
> > Lifetime Member of AARP
> > Retired Attorney/Law Professor
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