You must be a GREAT GURU who couldn't even even figure out how the groupstudy news server works and how you have been getting your mails.. ha ha ha.... Could someone tell this poor guy how the news server for groupstudy have been configured so that he can understand .... I think it's too complicated !!! In any case, don't bother emailing me because talking to you would be a absolute waste of time if you cannot understand a simple news-server, how can I even discuss anything technical with you.... ha ha ha..... Let's end this... ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > You don't even deserve a rebuttal, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". You won't even > say who you are...... 50,000 workstations my ass.... while you're making up > fake credentials, why not just say it was 100,000 workstations or 1 million. > > "Me" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Guess I have not read any CCNA books recently.... > > > > I won't even bother to flame you for the "joke??" . When you find me a > unix > > admin who can plan the deployment of 50,000 workstation and successfully > > roll it out, we can discuss again.... > > > > ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > In case you haven't noticed, most CCNA books point out the fact that the > > IOS > > > uses a "Unix-ish" shell, with command line completion, etc. just like > > Unix. > > > > > > Some of the low end equipment, like the 700 series and the 1900s allow > you > > > to use a web interface, but virtually everything else is command > line..... > > > > > > Can you provide facts showing that the IOS *isn't* Unix-ish? Perhaps > > Cisco > > > is working on a GUI, (don't flame me for this ... it's a joke), they're > > > working on a GUI so all the NT admins can have a chance at becoming > Cisco > > > gurus =) > > > > > > Mike W. (former NT admin) > > > > > > "Jason" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Oh, now the IOS is Unixish ?? Phew, so by that token, all Unix experts > > > would > > > > be CCIE... so I guess the number would include all the so call > > Unix/Linux > > > > "experts" > > > > I don't remember mentioning that the ATM runs NT, most of them > actually > > > run > > > > OS2. The extra $$ you save from using open?? source OS would be waste > on > > > > support.... > > > > > > > > In case you have not notice, Cisco is working on a GUI.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Kelly Hair"" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > "Jason" - > > > > > > > > > > By your logic, Windows NT 3.1 is all you need for your Enterprise to > > > > > succeed. Good luck in that endevour! > > > > > > > > > > In response to your other point, yes, I would trust my ATM server to > > > > Linux. > > > > > The blue screen is pretty but I would prefer to have money instead. > > > Oh.. > > > > > not to mention the extra money I would have from using a an open > > source > > > OS > > > > > rather than an M$ one... > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps Cisco should throw out the Unixish IOS and replace it with a > > GUI > > > > so > > > > > everyone could write configs for routers. Sounds like a grand > idea... > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > > > > What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, > > > > > > therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was > based > > > on > > > > > > a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all > > > about > > > > > > ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people > > > > > > working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the > hell > > > are > > > > > > people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody > > > using > > > > > > it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Jim Dixon"" wrote in message > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > >> THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ABSTRACT > > > > > >> B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. > > > Thompson, > > > > > >> for primarily non-numeric applications such as system > programming. > > > > > >> These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and > > > > > >> processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 > > TSS > > > > > >> system, B programs are usually much easier to write and > understand > > > > > >> than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is > > almost > > > > > >> as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially > > > > > >> appropriate use for B. This > > > > > > technical > > > > > >> report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) > > version > > > > > >> of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of > the > > > > > >> features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ken Thompson > > > > > >> The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author > of > > > > > >> the B language, the predecessor of C. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, > > often > > > > > >> with > > > > > > a > > > > > >> note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first name > > > > > >> (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail > > address) > > > > > >> in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in > > > > > >> particular) that without > > > > > > a > > > > > >> last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis > > > without > > > > > > last > > > > > >> name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a > > huge > > > > > >> production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed > to > > > > > >> support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up > > > with > > > > > >> Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People > said > > > > > >> "well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by > > one > > > > > >> guy must be Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to > visit > > > > > >> family > > > > > > in > > > > > >> San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, > > etc., > > > > > >> and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or > > was > > > > > >> it > > > > > > "Space > > > > > >> Travel"?). > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM > > > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >> Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT > guys? > > > > > >> [7:6675] > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is > UNIX > > > > > >> >subset. The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were > dropped > > > > > >> >because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel > > > > > >> >8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was > > > > > >> >available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX > > > > > >> >commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' > > > somehow. > > > > > >> >But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >DOS clowns. > > > > > >> >UNIX dweebs. > > > > > >> >NT geeks. > > > > > >> >Cisco nerds. > > > > > >> >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >- susan > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is > > there > > > > > >> an English word that comes to mind? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. 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