Hi,

I don't know about the lab but I came here to pick up snippets where I can. 
I feel understanding configs and various methods are fine but what I do pick
up is that the Cisco method is the accepted method.  ie If it comes out of
the CCO or CD then really learn this even though you might not use it in
real life.

I find some of the technical questions interesting and some of the answers
even more interesting.  Lately I have not had the time to put in but who
cares (only me).

I work in an area where my clients have all sorts of routers and/or
connection methods, we use Cisco.  Understanding Cisco is not enough
understanding how things hang together (RFC's, TCP/IP, Ethernet, basic
switching, ATM, Frame Relay, ISDN, Microsoft RAS etc.) this to me seems the
guts of networking.  OSPF, BGP, TCP/IP and the RFC's are not specific to one
company so I guess I feel understanding these are important to enhance
networking skills.

Another rant from Teunis

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Saturday, June 30, 2001 at 09:49:54 PM, Cisco Nuts wrote:

> Hi Chuck et all,
> The more and more I read about your postings, the more confident I feel 
> about the lab. As I have heard/been told, that the lab is just a mere
exam,
> half of the configs. which you will not see in the real world. As Chuck so 
> clearly puts it, if all you want is to pass the lab, read and Memorize 
> different configs, and practise, practise, practise. This I am sure is 
> enough to pass the lab-just pass it.. and get that magic number!
> Peace!!
> Anyone feel differently?? :-)
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "John Neiberger" 
> >Reply-To: "John Neiberger" 
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC RANT - Who Cares? WAS: MPLS [7:220]
> >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:04:21 -0400
> >
> >Yikes, Chuck!  I'm usually the grumpy one around here!  ;-)  Cheer up, my
> >man!
> >
> >But, I know how you feel.  Sometimes it seems that all too many people
want
> >the certifications without having to work at it.  (By the way, I
completely
> >missed the MPLS thread [since I don't know a thing about it] and I'm not
> >saying the original poster was being lazy.)
> >
> >In fact, it sometimes does help me to understand a concept if I see a
> >working config all at once.  On the other hand, my chances of remembering
> >something are infinitely better if I figure it out myself.
> >
> >For instance, I was reading some Caslow last night and then worked on some
> >bridging configs with two 2501s and my PC to generate traffic.  I was
> >working on transparent bridging but I was running into some problems.  As 
> >it
> >turns out, to completely test my config using my current setup, I ended up
> >configuring IRB on the remote router (from my PC's perspective.)  I will
> >now, always and forever, remember how I solved this particular issue 
> >because
> >I figured it out myself.
> >
> >Okay, I'm now through with my Chuck-inspired partial rant.  :-)
> >
> >We now return to our regular programming.
> >
> >John
> >
> >|  -----Original Message-----
> >|  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >|  Howard C. Berkowitz
> >|  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 5:25 PM
> >|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >|  Subject: Re: MPLS [7:220]
> >|
> >|
> >|  >Does anyone have a simple MPLS configuration they could post?
> >|
> >|  >To solve what problem with MPLS?
> >|
> >|  Oh give it up, Howard. Nobody cares. All they want is The Answer.
> >|
> >|  I've been kicking around the CCIE list for several months now. People 
> >who
> >|  want to be CCIE's but don't read the RFC's. Or Comer. Or Stevens. Or
> >|  Berkowitz. Or Oppenheimer. Or anything else. Doyle, Halabi, and Caslow
-
> >|  that's what gets you to the CCIE level! And why should they do 
> >otherwise?
> >I
> >|  don't recall seeing anything on my lab that made me wish I'd spend more
> >time
> >|  studying RFC's. Or TCP/IP theory. In fact just about everything I saw
on
> >my
> >|  lab made me wish I'd spent less time with the RFC's and more time doing
> >|  other things.
> >|
> >|  How does routing work? How does redistribution work? How does OSPF
work?
> >Who
> >|  cares? Just give me the configs that will help me pass. If I memorize
> >enough
> >|  variations, I'm ready for anything the lab throws my way.
> >|
> >|  OK. Out of my system. Back to memorizing configs ;->
> >|
> >|  Chuck
> >|
> >|
> >|
> >|
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