I am posting this per Lorne Braddock's request.  Please don't directly
respond back to me or Lorne because we simply can't reply to everyone
and don't want to appear disrespectful.

Regards,

Enid Sorkowitz
Manager, Customer Service
CCIE Program

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The CCIE program team at Cisco Systems, Inc. recently announced a
revised lab exam format and that sparked a good deal of discussion on
this study group alias.  I personally do not belong to the alias but one
particular message was brought to my attention because it was not only
inaccurate, it was potentially damaging.  Someone posted what they
represented as being valid test score results achieved by Phil Remaker
and Bruce Caslow during their voluntary review of the our new CCIE lab
exam format.  Those were NOT valid test scores so the information posted
by this individual was not only inaccurate and inappropriate, it was
misleading and had the potential of professionally damaging the two
individuals he was attributing the scores to.  

Because I do not personally belong to this forum, I elected to contact
the individual who posted the misinformation to make him aware of the
real facts.  I was careful to explain that I had no problem with
individuals expressing their personal point of view but, posting
inappropriate, inaccurate and damaging information about someone else
was in no ones best interests.  I gave him the facts and asked him to
post a clarification.  By doing so, he would correct the records, gain
personal credibility and send a clear signal that facts and not rhetoric
are important.  He assured me he would consider my request but, for
reasons known only to him, he apparently decided to let the
misinformation stand.  I will not.

I am the person who approached Bruce Caslow and Phil Remaker with the
request that they evaluate our new CCIE lab exam format.  I approached
them along with a couple of other Internet notables because of their
reputations and the industry wide credibility they possess.  Both Bruce
and Phil welcomed the opportunity to conduct such an evaluation because
they sincerely care about the ongoing reputation and success of the CCIE
certification program.  Both men willingly donated their time, and good
names, to this evaluation.  They were also willing to document their
findings and make them available to the interested public.  In my
opinion, their's is the kind of activism and involvement that is
beneficial to all who are and aspire to be CCIE certified.  

Bruce and Phil were asked for their opinion on the test's relevance,
degree of challenge, clarity and overall quality.  I wanted their
opinion as to whether this test set the proper standard of excellence
for a CCIE level certification exam.  Was it as good or better than it's
predecessor?  I told both of them that I did not expect, or want, them
to take the lab exam for scoring purposes.  It was the new lab exam
format I wanted evaluated, not them.  The analogy is as if I was asking
a world class marathoner to jog a new course I mapped out to see if it
suitable for world class record setting purposes.  Is the course
challenging enough, is it fair, does it test each athlete thoroughly? 
That's what I wanted their opinion on.  Neither Bruce nor Phil studied
or prepared in any way other than to clear their calender for the day. 
Of the two of them, Phil was the only one to even mention a score and he
did so in a self deprecating way.  Bottom line, no valid scores were
tallied or posted.  No score should be attributed to either one of them.

Lorne Braddock
Sr. Manager, CCIE Programs
Cisco Systems




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