Well, I would be interrested to know what their findings were... Is it more
challenging? is it up to par???
This would end several discussions about if the CCIE certification was going
to be depreciated because of this new lab format, and it does not sound like
it will...
I wonder where these records are? He said make them public...
----- Original Message -----
From: Enid Sorkowitz
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:21 PM
Subject: A message from the CCIE Program [7:13789]
> I am posting this per Lorne Braddock's request. Please don't directly
> respond back to me or Lorne because we simply can't reply to everyone
> and don't want to appear disrespectful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Enid Sorkowitz
> Manager, Customer Service
> CCIE Program
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> The CCIE program team at Cisco Systems, Inc. recently announced a
> revised lab exam format and that sparked a good deal of discussion on
> this study group alias. I personally do not belong to the alias but one
> particular message was brought to my attention because it was not only
> inaccurate, it was potentially damaging. Someone posted what they
> represented as being valid test score results achieved by Phil Remaker
> and Bruce Caslow during their voluntary review of the our new CCIE lab
> exam format. Those were NOT valid test scores so the information posted
> by this individual was not only inaccurate and inappropriate, it was
> misleading and had the potential of professionally damaging the two
> individuals he was attributing the scores to.
>
> Because I do not personally belong to this forum, I elected to contact
> the individual who posted the misinformation to make him aware of the
> real facts. I was careful to explain that I had no problem with
> individuals expressing their personal point of view but, posting
> inappropriate, inaccurate and damaging information about someone else
> was in no ones best interests. I gave him the facts and asked him to
> post a clarification. By doing so, he would correct the records, gain
> personal credibility and send a clear signal that facts and not rhetoric
> are important. He assured me he would consider my request but, for
> reasons known only to him, he apparently decided to let the
> misinformation stand. I will not.
>
> I am the person who approached Bruce Caslow and Phil Remaker with the
> request that they evaluate our new CCIE lab exam format. I approached
> them along with a couple of other Internet notables because of their
> reputations and the industry wide credibility they possess. Both Bruce
> and Phil welcomed the opportunity to conduct such an evaluation because
> they sincerely care about the ongoing reputation and success of the CCIE
> certification program. Both men willingly donated their time, and good
> names, to this evaluation. They were also willing to document their
> findings and make them available to the interested public. In my
> opinion, their's is the kind of activism and involvement that is
> beneficial to all who are and aspire to be CCIE certified.
>
> Bruce and Phil were asked for their opinion on the test's relevance,
> degree of challenge, clarity and overall quality. I wanted their
> opinion as to whether this test set the proper standard of excellence
> for a CCIE level certification exam. Was it as good or better than it's
> predecessor? I told both of them that I did not expect, or want, them
> to take the lab exam for scoring purposes. It was the new lab exam
> format I wanted evaluated, not them. The analogy is as if I was asking
> a world class marathoner to jog a new course I mapped out to see if it
> suitable for world class record setting purposes. Is the course
> challenging enough, is it fair, does it test each athlete thoroughly?
> That's what I wanted their opinion on. Neither Bruce nor Phil studied
> or prepared in any way other than to clear their calender for the day.
> Of the two of them, Phil was the only one to even mention a score and he
> did so in a self deprecating way. Bottom line, no valid scores were
> tallied or posted. No score should be attributed to either one of them.
>
> Lorne Braddock
> Sr. Manager, CCIE Programs
> Cisco Systems
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