I use decimal shortcuts most of the time as well -- but when I run across
something confusing, I'll go back to binary -- it always shows me the way .
. . 

Deb

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| I disagree wholeheartedly with one of those statements.  In this
| business you never really "arrive" in the first place, so the journey
| itself is as important or more important than the destination.  You
| learn binary subnetting techniques for the same reason students learn
| math without calculators. It's important that you really understand what
| is occurring if you want to be a good engineer.
|
| Liken this situation to cars.  If you just want to use the tools
| without understanding, then you are a driver only.  If you want to be a
| mechanic and know what's happening under the hood, then you have to
| learn the stuff the hard way.
|
| Back to reality for a bit.  As far as subnetting is concerned, it's
| very difficult to understand what's happening without learning it in
| binary.  Once you've learned it, though, it's not really necessary to do
| it in binary because you'll have plenty of shortcuts in your head that
| bypass--yet still rely on--the binary math you learned previously.
|
| Just my $.02...
|
| John
|
| >>> "Ken"  8/8/01 10:29:45 AM >>>
| This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some
| education.
| I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have
| is of
| what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just
| using a
| program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to
| produce a
| plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the
| network
| or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this
| manually?
| It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at
| the
| destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least
| source of
| error. As Cisco even says; "The purpose of this tool is to provide a
| way to
| calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing
| such
| calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
| mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and
| decimal
| numbers." So what is it I am not understanding?
|
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